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Topic: bluethner: weird/metallic sound near the middle C

This has been bugging me since i got the bluethner add-on. To illustrate, here's a 2-octave chromatic scale generated with Renoise, notes at 80 velocity. Listen around half to 2/3 of the file, especially the notes surrounding and above the middle C for this weird metallic quality that sounds kind of like an octave-doubling effect.

This is the preset "Bluethner Model One BA"

http://www.deimos.ca/miscjunk/bluethner-chromatic.mp3

Can anyone else who has the bluethner add-on create a similar file so i can hear if it sounds the same on your system?

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Reply by lowendtheory

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Re: bluethner: weird/metallic sound near the middle C

Isn't that the aliquot stringing with this model? I've might have heard that effect being described somewhere else.

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Re: bluethner: weird/metallic sound near the middle C

I don't think so, since it only happens in the middle range, most prominently in the middle-c octave. Plus, if i turn down the "aliquot strings" setting to the minimum, i can still hear it.

Weird thing is, i don't hear it (much) on the demos of the bluethner on the site.

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Re: bluethner: weird/metallic sound near the middle C

This is part of the Blüthner sound signature, see:
http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/viewtopic...74#p927574
http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/viewtopic.php?id=3050
As mentionned, you can lower this 8th partial if you wish in the voicing panel (standard version) or even not per note (pro version).

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Re: bluethner: weird/metallic sound near the middle C

Ah, thanks (once again) Philippe for your advice, and sorry for posting another thread about the same subject, although this time my definition of the "problem" was more precise, with the example mp3 and all.

I really like the bluethner's royal, majestic sound, with its characteristic "sweetness" in the upper range, especially when you boost the treble frequencies a bit.. through a massive cathedral-like reverb it sounds really really nice.

So when's a spring promo for buying add-ons coming up?

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