Topic: PreSonus has acquired Notion
And is promising to continue development. Good news, perhaps--PreSonus makes Studio One, a popular DAW. The result may be that more people start using Notion, which can grow in response:
And is promising to continue development. Good news, perhaps--PreSonus makes Studio One, a popular DAW. The result may be that more people start using Notion, which can grow in response:
A DAW, hmm. I see mike inputs, which I've no current use for. But I see too MIDI in-out on the cheapie plus USB for your laptop. Hmm. HP top of the line now sports NVIDIA (with its graphics processor speedup-potentials for non-graphic uses, a big plus) but also sports USB 3 ports only, with its menaces for USB 2 connections, such as on the cheapie. At 140 bucks, think one could regard any possible burnouts with equanimity (certainly cheaper than some wireless MIDI-connector will be). Hmm.
Meantime a certain lugubrious soul on the NOTION forum is in sackcloth and ashes about it all. The sky's about to fall. Hope not! And Surfwhammy's blithe about it, a good sign IMO.
Just to be sure that I was not confused or confusing--Presonus makes both hardware mixers and the software program Studio One. You're speaking about the hardware DAW, yes?
Studio One looks interesting. Currently has no score view, per se, but now that the company has bought Notion, I suppose it will be incorporated.
I downloaded the demo. Nice interface. It comes with a decent sf2 player, but the free version does not support vsti's. I'm having trouble getting it set up to play back a midi file through its sf2 player, however.
(I seem to have some fundamental problem with software DAW's--everything is straightforward except for a single, simple thing that I somehow get lost in...)
Yep, hardware. Motivation's to feed MIDI only from my VPC1 to laptop (though of course the things don't have MIDI inputs), and so avoid the perils of USB 2 connections (VPC1's only alternative to MIDI) with USB 3, as on the otherwise worthy current HP high end laptops.
Well my shopping so far has convinced me there's either a wireless MIDI connection to laptop (safe, expensive) or some USB 2 connection, there's no other options current. So the only alternative to safe and expensive is cheap, and the cheapest ($150) hardware offered by this outfit (forget the names) has MIDI-in, USB 2 out.
So it's a contender.
(Found it, for what it's worth:
1. Create an "Instrument track"
2. Click on View\Browser and drag the "Presence" sf2\sfz player onto the new track.
3. On the bottom of the browser, click on the Files tab, navigate to the midi file, and drag it onto the "Instrument track." If you drag it anywhere else, a new song will be created.
Looks interesting. Don't know that I will opt for the vst version that can load Pianoteq, since I already have Cubase. )
Here's a quote from a Sweetwater customer's review, possibly showing Presonus' motives for the acquisition:
Unbelievable Power And Value!
You really have to try this program to believe that it really is better, easier, faster, and 'funner' than whatever DAW you're using now! All that, and it's at least 90% as powerful as the "Industry Standard" DAW (Yeah, that one) and it's more flexible and vastly more intuitive. Considering it's only been around a couple years, unlike the 'Standard', Studio One is surprisingly mature and powerful.Having spent considerable time, effort and energy into really learning Tro Pools, and really liking it, I finally tired of it's quirks and having to lift myself out of my creative space to deal with some technical issue, and so dug into Studio One. Man was I pleasantly surprised! I'm being 100% honest when I say that it was like coming out of a fog into the clarity of day. I'm not detracting anything from Tro Pools; it is more powerful, but for strictly music production, Studio One, though it lacks a few things (like a score editor) is just better for working with music. Just about everything I do in Studio One is done quicker, and with fewer clicks/keystrokes than with any other DAW I have ever used. And the results all sound amazing (that's what REALLY matters, right?)
Studio One is already 64-bit so it uses the full resources of my computer, everything I need is either right there on the screen or a click or two away, it's very intuitive to work with, but even if I get stuck, the manual is very well written and clear. It comes loaded with an excellent compliment of instruments, effects and sounds (and of course 3rd party plugins are not a problem). It loads faster, and accomplishing typical tasks is faster than other DAWs, and some of those others aren't even in the ball park! I'm using it with a MOTU Audio Express interface and have had zero issues; again, unlike 'certain' other programs.
Now, for the Cons: I really wish it had a score editor, and I will strongly suggest that to Presonus for the next version (hopefully they listen). The faders in console view could have a longer travel and they are a little inaccurate in that the actual level (the numbers) don't consistently match up well with the physical position of the fader, and I personally prefer pots rather than sliders for panning. Track numbering is missing as well and the outputs of a couple of my multi-out virtual instruments are not enumerated correctly. Except for the missing score editor, these are really very minor and all together the cons aren't worth deducting a star.
Throw in the fact that Studio One currently costs hundreds less than the more popular, more aged offerings out there and there is one more reason every serious musician ought to make Studio One the foundation of any hobbyist, amateur, semi-pro or even professional studio setup. It really is THAT good!.
Perhaps Presonus got quite some feedbacks like this and nodded. What seems clear, though, is that one should wait for just what the future brings - perhaps a version 2.5, accommodating, (and just maybe an overhaul of NOTION's less-than-very tidy organization - have they fixed the lack of pedal capture with MIDI yet?).
ADDED: I sprung <cough> for one of the hardwares; too embarrassed to say which.
Actually, Notion can register pedal movement, but you have to change to the second "mode" of recording. I'm away from home right now, and can't recall the exact name of this way of playing. There was a discussion on the Notion forum, however--you might do a search for "pedal."
Found it. Notion captures all midi input, including pedal info, when you use a "Sequencer staff," which is its name for a display of midi data on a normal staff. Simple to do. From the manual:
Add a new staff to your score. Then:
1. Go to the Score Setup window.
2. Add a new instrument or click the icon that resembles a gear at the left of a pre-existing staff.
3. In the Instrument Settings dialogue click: Notation/Tab
4. Highlight (check, it means) the “Sequencer Staff” checkbox.
5. Click OK.
The Staff will now appear with orange lines and has been converted to a SequencerStaff.
Works fine. The problem that has worried people is that the pedal commands are not shown on the default staff page, and pedal commands are ignored if you record from that page. You have to go in and enter the pedal marking manually. Not good. Off-hand, I'm not sure if Cubase shows pedal positions in its Score view. But if you record in Score view, the pedal positions are in any case recorded to the midi data. That's where Notion trips up--making you select a certain view to record the pedalling. But not a killer problem. I like the looks of it, and the SequenceStaff view. It works well with Pianoteq. (But you must remember that by default, it opens with its own Reverb turned on, so you must go to the Mixer page and turn it off.)
EDIT: The developers are promising to address this problem. See this recent thread on the Notion forum about using keyboards with Notion: http://forum.notionmusic.com/viewtopic....amp;t=4055
BUT there is the one larger limitation to consider: You cannot record live into Notion. You can import audio files, but you cannot sing or play a real instrument. You have to do that in another program and then import it into Notion.
The NOTION way to get notation from a MIDIfile having fallen out of memory, I used your instructions to get from Herbie Hancock's MY FUNNY VALENTINE.mid to an orange staff version, then converted to notation. Neither version exhibited Herbie's pedal, which was interesting to hear but not delightful. And though I could have gone on to insert markings of my own, the issue is Herbie's - they show up perfectly well in PTQ replay.
Not good, as you say. Yet it would seem to be such a simple thing to implement!
ADDED: actually, turning Mixer's reverb *higher* took the raw edge off the pedal-less sound, but had the effect also of making the music seem more distant.