Topic: Experience Different Tunings and Temperaments
Hi PTQ lovers! I made a video because nobody seems to believe what tremedous effect the tuning has. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZiWJLIgfwo
A note to Modartt, a real Bechstein sound like this:
- custral
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A note to nutela : two minutes of nudging Pianoteq's Bechstein defaults in the Hammerwood piano's direction achieves a moderate copy of it. Four hours to indistinguishable.
And meantime, your "real" Bechstein can imitate solely itself. 'Precisely' I hear you snort (ignoring the 'solely' and 'indistinguishable' side-effects). Won't mention cost - cough.
ADDED to make good on that 'two minutes' boast, I uploaded a sample in two parts A) HAMMERWOOD_1.FXP and B) 3 Debussy Preludes, as a MIDI. The FXP uses the Bradley Lehmann 'squiggle' temperament, just because the owner of Hammerwood hates it, and tunes his Bechstein in direct opposition. And wherever the FXP fails, remember that 2 minutes! it was real.
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Nutela ... nice examples! Well done!
- jcfelice88keys
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You may wish to edit the first entry of the poll to read 440 Equal, instead of only 400 Equal.
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I do most of my playing with A=432Hz and using the Prinz well-temperament from the scala download package.
The ability to experiment and experience playing in different pitch and temperaments was a large motivation for my initial purchase of pianoteq.
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custral wrote:
A note to nutela : two minutes of nudging Pianoteq's Bechstein defaults in the Hammerwood piano's direction achieves a moderate copy of it. Four hours to indistinguishable.
And meantime, your "real" Bechstein can imitate solely itself. 'Precisely' I hear you snort (ignoring the 'solely' and 'indistinguishable' side-effects). Won't mention cost - cough.
ADDED to make good on that 'two minutes' boast, I uploaded a sample in two parts A) HAMMERWOOD_1.FXP and B) 3 Debussy Preludes, as a MIDI. The FXP uses the Bradley Lehmann 'squiggle' temperament, just because the owner of Hammerwood hates it, and tunes his Bechstein in direct opposition. And wherever the FXP fails, remember that 2 minutes! it was real.
Thanks very much for that highly interesting Bechstein preset. Playing around with that now, changing this and that, but it is, if meant so or not^^, a great sound to begin with, I still like the old Bechstein in pt. Thanks again!
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Hm, thinks I detect another headphone user. If so, binaural surely suits Debussy, as I discovered too; makes him more explicable as music-intention, different from mass-strums/fitful-spikes as usually heard (and the performer here adds plenty also).
If I were going forward with this effort (and regardless of any piano at Hammerwood), my first concern would be what I'd call 'tubby' sounding extreme bass , and what I'd first try is dropping the overtones there slightly via Spectrum Profile. Annoyance there comes and goes however, and maybe is more prominent with short, strong notes.
If you like Debussy, and'd like 12 of his (technical, focused) Etudes, say and I'll upload them to DropBox, with a link.