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Topic: Saving dead brands???

I have a idea.
What about use pianoteq technology to save dead piano brands.?

The Kivir project help to preserve historic instruments, and it's a very good and honorable initiative. But I'm also talking about very good modern pianos, no longer manufatured.


We know there are some very good pianos which label no longer exist, the factory no long built piano, was closed etc...
One example is the brazilian piano brand called Essenfelder, internationally recognized as a very good piano, which factory sadly closed in early 90's, and piano quality was very good until 1986 or so. Family problems and economic crises... they speed up and cut costs, quality droped, and finally the factory was closed.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-qqVBicQJ0



Similar to film preservation, I think it's important to save some piano brands legacy.


Does anybody have in mind another very good modern piano brand no longer manufatured?

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Re: Saving dead brands???

I like the sound of the Essenfelder, too. But how would one find one to study? I keep hoping that Oleg will one day have the idea that his many older pianos should be be preserved in Pianoteq. True, his shop is a few hundred miles away from Toulouse, but what is physical distance when art is concerned?

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Re: Saving dead brands???

Essenfelder Factory was in Parana state, near my state, as I live on Brazil.  I send one email to the Shymphonic Orchestra of Parana, asking help about find the best models in good shape, and contact to the old owners of the Essenfelder Factory.

Let's see what happens.

Modartt few years ago, for Kivir project needed precise carefully recording of each note in 3 or 4 velocities, measurements.
Not sure if it's the same today or if more details are need.


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I like the sound of the Essenfelder, too. But how would one find one to study? I keep hoping that Oleg will one day have the idea that his many older pianos should be be preserved in Pianoteq. True, his shop is a few hundred miles away from Toulouse, but what is physical distance when art is concerned?

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Re: Saving dead brands???

The danemann uprights from London were greath, some considered them as good as or better then the Petrov. Ive played around with a danemann from the 1920s and its still a greath piano, marvelous action to play.

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Re: Saving dead brands???

There are probably many good dead brand pianos.

It would take tome and money to create a add-on for each.


But at least could be possible to just take the sounds of each note in few velocities, nuances, measurements, analizess, that are required to create a add-on of a given piano model.

Starting saving the models, by getting this data, before the pianos get too old and lost old glory.

Saving now for future or near future recreation.


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The danemann uprights from London were greath, some considered them as good as or better then the Petrov. Ive played around with a danemann from the 1920s and its still a greath piano, marvelous action to play.

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Re: Saving dead brands???

Completely "Modeled" Bosendorfer 290 Imperial Grand:



http://www.coroflot.com/RobWing/Bosendo...rial-Grand





A nice CGI.