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Topic: Nord Piano

One more option for a piano & midi controller:

http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/...ord-piano/

I personally like many things with Clavia's products:

+ you can download your favourite piano sounds freely from internet and company is updating these sounds quite often.
+ sound quality is good in general
+ Clavia's Effects are good
+ Now their pianos have String Resonance function (?)

Let's see if they've managed to improve these:

- keyboard (they've been using Fatar and I'm not sure about the quality).
- MIDI: Clavia's products have USB connector but it doesn't transfer midi data. Also other midi functions are terrible if you plan to use it as a mother keyboard.

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Reply by michaelmathy

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Re: Nord Piano

From the photo, it looks like a big toy, no ?

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Re: Nord Piano

Fatar is of good quality.
/Sorry fo OT/
But f*ck Clavia, why don't they do something about the Modular? Instead they release a stage piano, as if there wouldn't be enough already.
It'll be a shame if they'd leave the modular completely.
/OT off/

The update system is a neat idea. You just upload whatever you want into the piano, quickly.

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Re: Nord Piano

davidka91 wrote:

/Sorry fo OT/
But f*ck Clavia, why don't they do something about the Modular? Instead they release a stage piano, as if there wouldn't be enough already.
It'll be a shame if they'd leave the modular completely.
/OT off/

Nothing to apologize about -- I couldn't agree more with you.  I thought they were a good company, so I bought the Electro 2 (and was going to get the double-manual organ, too!), only to find out that their forward-thinking support for it is zilch!  Soon came the Electro 3, a totally new, enhanced product, and their response for support was essentially, "Hey, we're only focused on making _new_ products!"  Great -- so I paid $1,500 or so (at the time) for a device which they made obsolete in a fairly short time-span, with no interest in ever improving it...

I would avoid Clavia, based on this experience.  Fool me once, shame on you -- fool me twice, shame on me!

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Re: Nord Piano

fatar actions have been problematic also!

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Re: Nord Piano

dhalfen wrote:
davidka91 wrote:

/Sorry fo OT/
But f*ck Clavia, why don't they do something about the Modular? Instead they release a stage piano, as if there wouldn't be enough already.
It'll be a shame if they'd leave the modular completely.
/OT off/

Nothing to apologize about -- I couldn't agree more with you.  I thought they were a good company, so I bought the Electro 2 (and was going to get the double-manual organ, too!), only to find out that their forward-thinking support for it is zilch!  Soon came the Electro 3, a totally new, enhanced product, and their response for support was essentially, "Hey, we're only focused on making _new_ products!"  Great -- so I paid $1,500 or so (at the time) for a device which they made obsolete in a fairly short time-span, with no interest in ever improving it...

I would avoid Clavia, based on this experience.  Fool me once, shame on you -- fool me twice, shame on me!

:-)

If I understand these critics, Clavia's main sin is to make too many hardware updates, am I right? So there are angry Electro 2 owners who bought their instrument on day D and next day Clavia released Electro 3 with quite same price. To a certain degree I agree with those critics. Maybe Clavia is making new models that are too close to older ones.

BUT: they are developing things. Give another company which is giving free sounds via internet and updating their product's OS many times a year. Compared to the Yamaha which is a company that doesn't give us anything new, or is it? And Roland is a master of developing new things but forgetting them right a way. (For example they developed ARX-(or Supernatural) - card series but didn't give any good cards). I wouldn't buy Roland V-piano because I have reason to believe that Roland won't make it any better in future...

Clavia's main thing is that their products aren't 16 channel multitimbral all-around workstations with all sounds with compromised quality. When you buy Electro, C1, Stage (or Nord Piano) you'll have no drum sets or ukulele etc. Just few sounds that are quite good and can you choose your own sounds from internet. That's why so many professionals like it.

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Re: Nord Piano

I own two Waves -the only keyboard by Clavia that I'm familiar with- so obviously, I dig it.  Sampling Pianoteq -and anything else- for the Wave is a piece of cake.  Of course, doesn't replace the Pianoteq software... just more options for live performance and sound experimentation.  Only complaint I had with Clavia is their shipping cartons.  Some knobs were bent on one of my Waves because there was little space and no padding between the control surface and the sides of the corrugated box.  So far I've only had one knob stuck on Pianoteq after a download -and it turned out to be mouse lint...

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