A relief to say goodbye to sampled pianos

I completely agree -- Pianoteq _is_ an instrument.  While not a "perfect" (choke, cough, gasp, wheeze) copy of a piano (what is? -- that be applied to acoustic pianos, too!  ;^), it really doesn't _need_ to be.  I just play it and play it and play it...

Glenn, isn't it cool that they used a piece called 'pathetic' to show that off then?

Hans:

Thanks for the laugh - it made my morning (it's 9:32 am here).

It sounds like you've heard it too.  By the way, I have a pretty good midi file of it by a young pianist, which I usually use to listen to (from the Minnesota e-Piano Competitions 2009).  I use M3 Recording with the mics completely re-arranged from default.

Glenn

Edit:  used creart's first name (from user profiles).

Now that I've found Pianoteq and WIVI I'd never ever look back at sample pianos, woodwinds/brass/saxes again.

But now that I've addressed the pianos and woodwinds/brass/sax, some other quite very painful shortcomings have come into view.

Guitars...and basses too, of course. There is no, and I really mean absolutely NO product out there that will give me the sound I want. And it has absolutely nothing to do with tone, if you know what I mean. It has everything to do with expression and how a guitar is meant to sound as it is played in real life.

Some may say, just get a real guitar, but I'm going to point out that there is a better alternative - Mokafix Audio. There is no current guitar/bass instruments at the moment, but that may change hopefully soon. If you listen to the clips on the website, you will hear just how realistic the playing sounds. It's as if it's a real guitar or bass that is being played, when in fact it is a very detailed and accurate physical model that is producing the sound.

Keep your eyes (and ears) peeled for this one. I can assure you it will change the face of the virtual instrument world when (and of course, if) it comes to fruition. I still have my own personal doubts as to whether it will be released - the reason I don't have a whole lot of trust is because I've been through a lot of trauma in my life and it has changed the way I think about things especially considering many good things that have been brutally taken away from me. Things that, while taken for granted by most everyone else, were just too good to be true for me.

Money things, legal things, etc, could very well destroy this revolutionary string modeling. To avoid bitter disappointment and heartbreak I am going to assume that they will never be released.

But I can tell you now if they are released - there will be a whole new world of rock/pop/folk music being truly opened up. Let's face it, nobody wants to invest in a useless waste of money and time for samples of guitars and basses that will ultimately disappoint. Any guitars and basses done by Mokafix Audio will NOT disappoint, let me assure you. Guitars and basses are the spine and the guts of most music, and if Mokafix Audio releases these much needed instruments they will indeed fill a very deep void in the virtual instrument world.

I wake up every morning longing for the day when everyone is only using samples for percussion/drums and PROPER virtual instruments for everything else - proper, I mean by, something that either uses sophisticated physical modeling or in the case of Samplemodeling, sophisticated behavioral modeling. They have done an amazing job on their trumpet and other instruments, and if they release the violin family then people will be able to finally write convincing orchestral pieces.

Ordinary sampled strings are not going to cut it, never have, never will. We all welcome a groundbreaking revolution. We're all tired of sample libraries, after 20+ years, we really are just sick and tired of them.

Ben

I'd never heard of MokaFix Audio. I couldn't give a toss about bass & guitar, but their Wurly sounds amazingly good.

EDIT: That was after playing single notes. Now that I've played it properly, I'm downgrading it to "very good". 
As an instrument, not in the same class as Pianoteq IMHO. I'm still glad to have discovered a new player in this field though.

Greg.