Topic: Teacher Hugh Sung

Hugh Sung prepared a long and detailed tutorial to help piano students to play Clair de Lune.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QczTcXvE...playnext=1

Incredible his patient and disposition...

I woulkd like to see hin prepare a new video about pianoteq, using the YC5 chamber add-on.

Re: Teacher Hugh Sung

Is that actually Pianoteq in the recording? I can see that he has Pianoteq running, but the recording sounds too good for Pianoteq. If it is, then I want to know the preset!

EDIT: The following reply in YouTube suggests to me that this person THINKS that the recording was done in Pianoteq, and is suggesting to Hugh Sung that he make another recording, but this time use the YC5:

"What about another pianoteq performance, but this time using the new YC5 (reproduction of Yamaha C 5 model) add-on?
The YC5 chamber if reduced the hammer hardnes get very well for classic music"

I don't think we are hearing Pianoteq at all - it sounds like the actual piano.

Greg.

Last edited by skip (16-09-2009 14:10)

Re: Teacher Hugh Sung

(I just now posted a comment on the YouTube pages for the first video,  asking him to tell us his audio set-up and if he's recording from PianoTeq, etc. Perhaps we'll learn more soon.)

Re: Teacher Hugh Sung

He answer here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QczTcXvE...ture=email

"Great questions! I'm actually recording my Cunningham Piano acoustically with a single Rode condenser microphone. I have a separate wireless lapel microphone for my voice, and both signals are routed into a next XLR audio input box that goes straight into the digital video feed. In post processing, i have to extract the audio and convert both channels to mono with Audacity, along with normalization and high peak reduction. "

And he wasn't aware of YC5 add-on until a coment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QczTcXvE...ture=email

"This sounds like a terrific idea! I didn't know there was a YC5 add-on - i'll give it a try! Thanks! "

Last edited by Beto-Music (16-09-2009 20:41)

Re: Teacher Hugh Sung

skip wrote:

Is that actually Pianoteq in the recording? I can see that he has Pianoteq running, but the recording sounds too good for Pianoteq. :)

Oh, gentlemen of MODARTT -- are you listening?  (Of course you are!) 

Your mission, should you choose to accept it:  create a piano model that'll make Greg eat an old, leathery shoe.  (Or, at the very least, his words!) 

Naturally, I understand his point, even if I am, very obviously, a Pianoteq fan-boy.  ;^)

I'm just trying to give you guys some...  er... incentive, or "inspiration."  (I.e., "fire you up.")

"Our developers, who art in Toulouse, hallowed be thy physical-models.
Thy version 4 come, thy new instruments be done, in the computer as it is in the wood!"

Re: Teacher Hugh Sung

But why does he also have PianoTeq running? You can see it reacting to his pedaling behind the page with the score.

Interesting, though, that he's using a single condenser mic for the piano. Anyone know this model?

Last edited by Jake Johnson (17-09-2009 15:22)

Re: Teacher Hugh Sung

dhalfen wrote:

Your mission, should you choose to accept it:  create a piano model that'll make Greg eat an old, leathery shoe.  (Or, at the very least, his words!)

I'm quitting while I'm ahead.

Seriously, I am absolutely sure I could be fooled by Pianoteq. I've been fooled by FAR lesser emulations in the past, that's for sure.

In this recording, though, there's a richness there that I just haven't *quite* heard from Pianoteq yet.  There are also extraneous noises and vibrations which tends to be a bit of a hint, however I still wondered whether those sounds might still occur with the strings muted. (with his voice mic left on, of course)  The fact that I wasn't 100% sure it was *not* Pianoteq is IMHO still a pretty good complement!

Greg.

Re: Teacher Hugh Sung

dhalfen wrote:

Oh, gentlemen of MODARTT -- are you listening?  (Of course you are!)

Yes, we are, and I must say that you all are really boosting us!

Re: Teacher Hugh Sung

skip wrote:

In this recording, though, there's a richness there that I just haven't *quite* heard from Pianoteq yet.  There are also extraneous noises and vibrations which tends to be a bit of a hint, however I still wondered whether those sounds might still occur with the strings muted. (with his voice mic left on, of course)  The fact that I wasn't 100% sure it was *not* Pianoteq is IMHO still a pretty good complement! :)

Oh, I know, I was just holding up the comment as a sort of, "You guys can do even better!"  When the day comes that _no_ one can honestly say, "It's not as good as a real piano," then _all_ of us will have something to celebrate (and should light a cigar, open a bottle of champagne, throw confetti, etc.). 

Pianoteq still has, at its root, an inherently "electronic" sound (that is beautiful to my ears, especially with sustain and resonance), so while it sounds extraordinarily like a piano "up front" (and, more importantly, _plays_ as such!), it has qualities that a real piano could never possess.  In this way, it achieves a sort of "hybrid" status to perfection.  And as its capacity to mimic real pianos' various richnesses increases (that's a mouthful!), both dimensions will become even _more_ enhanced.

"Our developers, who art in Toulouse, hallowed be thy physical-models.
Thy version 4 come, thy new instruments be done, in the computer as it is in the wood!"

Re: Teacher Hugh Sung

Bon appetit !!!

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dhalfen wrote:

Your mission, should you choose to accept it:  create a piano model that'll make Greg eat an old, leathery shoe.  (Or, at the very least, his words!)

:-)

Last edited by Beto-Music (17-09-2009 19:45)

Re: Teacher Hugh Sung

HA!  I wasn't even thinking of ol' Charlie -- thanks for posting the pics!!! 

8^D

"Our developers, who art in Toulouse, hallowed be thy physical-models.
Thy version 4 come, thy new instruments be done, in the computer as it is in the wood!"