Feature request: mic direction\rotate mic on 2 planes

But, you have the option to point and resize the Binaural mic (head phone icon). Why can't that be implemented to more than one mic?

Hi Neil. Well, you're right--I made the mistake of thinking in terms of directional mics. I can see various problems, but they might still be valuable. They are used in many piano recordings. In fact, for pop and rock, I'm not sure I've seen many pianos close-miced with omnis. Are they used more for the ambient sound, to pick up the more distant sound and the room?

Off subject, perhaps: Can't omni mics still be swiveled around to pick up varying sound sources? Won't an omni at a given xyz position under the lid and pointed towards the soundboard create a sound that differs from that of an omni at the same position but pointed towards the lid? They are called omni mics, but because of their "base," where the electronics and wires are housed, they can't pick up vibrations at 360 degrees around their head, so their angle does affect the sound? Or are our virtual, perfect mics instead configured to register 360 degrees of vibrations? If so, I'm not sure that's good--a mic on the floor would pick up the immediate echo as much as the original sound. Not sure I hear this, however.

How about a way to control the extent to which a virtual mic is directional or omniscient? Just a degree setting? Impossible to create? Quite an accomplishment. Still better if it could be combined with the ability to set the size of the diaphragm--the user could create tiny directional pizzo mics or omnis with their natural limitations.

Well, we could go the whole hog and simulate the SoundField B-format but how applicable would that be to an "area source" such as solo piano?

Best//Neil

Jake:

I think the answer to your question is yes.  Some references I have had for a while:

http://mixonline.com/recording/applicat...ing_piano/

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan08/a...g_0108.htm

http://www.doghousenyc.com/articles/piano1.php

Glenn

While I do understand the request for more directional mics and rotation parameters for them, I wonder what marvellous recordings might be attainable with that. Let's face it: Are you sure you really are through with all options how five mics can be placed and mixed? And how reverb can be added? Not to mention the color of the sound can widely be changed in the piano model itself? So what's next? I guess modeling of different famous microphones would be nice.
Don't take me wrong. I don't say I don't want these features - I just found it more satisfying to get familiar with what's already available to get the best results.
Have a good one

Ah, yes... RaySpace is a good example for what can awaken desire... And actually is not really needed (in my opinion). Yes, it is fun to place walls and listen how the sound varies... But do you really hear the shape of the room? I think it is rather a combination of reflexion patterns you may or may not like for the music you want to apply it to. And maybe you would get better results if you just used good conventional reverbs and adjusted their parameters to whatever you want to hear. To me this is the difference between good tools and fancy toys (again, I don't say RaySpace isn't good in its way).

But, lest we lose sight of the initial post: The ability to swivel the mics still seems important to getting a dryer sound, and I suggested it because the feature might be fairly easy to implement--just take the code for the binaural head and reduce it to one stereo mic, cutting out the filtering\cancellation of the head itself.

It would be good to be able to dampen the room some. Don't we have the size parameter already, to give us the basics of the room?
And I suspect that what are sometimes heard as room problems may result from the mics being omni's.

Do I want to be able to choose among many mics? Well, yes, eventually. But the ability to set parameters notes by note is on the horizon, and that will give us so much more control over the sound.

That's what I think. There are no walls in the recording environment, so the room size is irrelevant for that. The reverb unit is supposed to add room, but it is independent of the recording environment.
Because of the lack of walls there are no reflections from walls, and this might nullify the need for directional mics. Maybe I should do some experiments whether there are reflections from the floor...

We should create a Fixed toppic in the forum, "Impossible Reverbs."

Some reverberation we hear from some albuns are quite impossible to match.  Maybe because in the studio they use several microphones, of variable kinds and with different adjusts.  This plus equalization and eletronic filters.

This music for example, Crown Victoria Custom 53, and others from the same album, got critics due exagerated reverb & equalization.  But I think the reverb it's interesting, even than exagerated.  Bu I can't imagine what they did to get this effect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMCA8v17yGo

Attention in 01:34 to 01:37      The sound it's something like I never heard in any other piano recording.

This piano, despite the simple repetitive playing here, get a interesting sound, with a deep and longer presence for the patterns and playing style. 
This same pattern would sound quite simple un-virtuous, if played the same way withou any reverb.

Maybe they get eletronic reverbs diferently form, bass and trebble, and blend different reverberations adjusts.
Just remembering this music was recorded in mastered in 1995.

Well, your comment make sense...

It's like the husband who gave a coat to his wife, and the wife thanks and said:

-Now I will need a new pair of shoes to combine with this coat. And also a new dress, and also new hair style, and a new feminine shirt, and...

;-)

Sorry women. Just a little bit of 50's humor. No intented sexism here.