Topic: Lowest possible latency with notebook and external audio interface?

Running Pianoteq 3.02 stand-alone on a Dell E6400 (Core 2 Duo, 2.5Ghz, IDT HD Audio sound chip, ASIO4All 2.9), I cannot get latency down to less than 8ms (352 samples) before crackles start to appear on heavy load.

I used to have a Dell D800 with a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Notebook card and - as far as I remember - this had no problems running Pianoteq 2.3 with 3ms (128 samples) latency. Sadly, this card is PCMCIA and the version of the Dell E6400 I have only takes ExpressCards.

The few ExpressCard-based sound cards seem to have little or no ASIO support.

Questions:

1. Has anyone with IDT HD Audio been able to obtain lower latency. If so, what might I be doing wrong?

2. Would it be possible to obtain lower latency (than 8ms) with an external audio interface? I presume this would have to be Firewire rather than USB(?) This is a rather general question, I know, but when reading audio interface reviews, the focus is usually on either 1) big configurations with dozens of vst(i) instruments and effects or 2) direct-monitoring when recording. None of these scenarios tell me anything about latency when playing a single instrument live, so since the topic of interest is Pianoteq, would anyone care to share what latencies they are able to obtain with which specific Firewire or USB audio interfaces?

And to those who say 8ms is just fine: I can feel the difference in latency when switching from Pianoteq to the internal sounds of my Roland RD700SX. The difference was not as pronounced when I used the old notebook with the PCMCIA card.

Thanks,

Joergen Bech

Re: Lowest possible latency with notebook and external audio interface?

This may or may not be of any use, but I was having a lot of trouble until Niclas Fogwall (Pianoteq help line), suggested the following:

> Hi Glenn,
>
> The C3 Recording preset uses more channels than e.g. C3 Binaural. That
> is why its CPU consumption is higher.
>
> You should change the buffer size from 120 (which is extremely low) to a
> multiple of 64, I suggest to 320.
>
> Regards,
> Niclas Fogwall
> Sales & support
> Pianoteq

In your case, the magic number might be 192 (3 x 64).  This is a guess on my part, but the 320 (5 x 64) works for me.

Glenn

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Re: Lowest possible latency with notebook and external audio interface?

You may want to try this one out:

http://www.usb-audio.com/

Not free, though.

Re: Lowest possible latency with notebook and external audio interface?

Hi!
You could try this out.:

http://www.rme-audio.de/products_fireface_400.php

I work with TC Konnekt 8 with latency of 96-128 samples and it works really good.

http://www.tcelectronic.com/konnekt8.asp

greetings

Heinke

Re: Lowest possible latency with notebook and external audio interface?

usb (2) or Firewire interfaces will give you about the same latency, since the bandwidth is similar.

Another solution would be to buy a PCMCIA to Express card adapter like this one:
http://www.virtuavia.eu/shop/index.php?...&sl=FR

It's not expensive at all.