I have a triple pedal connected to the MIDI 'IN' of my Acuna88. All 3 pedals are showing as functional at source (PNOscan TUSB Interface). However, only 2 of the three pedals are producing messages within PianoTEQ, and nothing from the sustain pedal???
I know little of midi, so could do with some pointers please,
Kindest Regards,
Chris
how exactly is your setup? did you connect the pnoscan with the pc per usb and the acuna to pnoscan's midi jack?
how exactly is your setup? did you connect the pnoscan with the pc per usb and the acuna to pnoscan's midi jack?
Not quite,
I'm powering the PNOscan TUSB (which is connected to my triple pedal) via USB and taking the MIDI 'OUT' from it to the MIDI 'IN' of the Acuna. I'm using a MIDI 'OUT' from the Acuna into the MIDI 'IN' of my Focusrite Saffire PRO 24.
I don't understand why unacorda and sustenuto work and sustain doesn't???
Kindest Regards,
Chris
that seems to be a firmware bug of the acuna to me, maybe because it doesn't support continuous sustain pedals? (i don't know that keyboard, so I'm just guessing, as you know I'm finished with off the shelf DPs ).
I would suggest that you use the pnoscan's integrated midi interface to get the pedal messages into pianoteq(pianoteq can accept midi data from multiple midi devices simultaneously). that should be faster anyway that pushing it through a midi cable, or do you need the pedals to interfer with internal sounds of you DP?
if the acuna has integrated usb-midi maybe you're better off with using it instead of your saffire ?
When I changed my piano to support USB midi rather than pushing midi data to a EMU usb midi interface it really improved midi latency a lot.
Chris, does your Acuna have a midi thru?
It might be that the midi in port of your Acuna filters the information out?
Check the Midi specs for that...
Or do you have an other midi port connected to your computer, that you could connect the pedal to??
Try connect the pedal straight to the Saffire's midi port and see what happens in Pianoteq...
cheers
Hans
Chris, are all three of the pedals continuous? Or are any of them continuous? As opposed to simple on/off.
If two of them are showing in Pianoteq in the midi window you can change the controller assignments there (in Pianoteq) so, for example, one of the pedals is routed to sustain (or whatever you'd like it to control). It's also worth checking to see if the problem is one of the pedals. So perhaps take a look to see what happens when you plug all three of the pedals (but one at a time) into one the pedal inputs that seems to be working.
Hope this helps ...
that seems to be a firmware bug of the acuna to me, maybe because it doesn't support continuous sustain pedals? (i don't know that keyboard, so I'm just guessing, as you know I'm finished with off the shelf DPs ).
I would suggest that you use the pnoscan's integrated midi interface to get the pedal messages into pianoteq(pianoteq can accept midi data from multiple midi devices simultaneously). that should be faster anyway that pushing it through a midi cable, or do you need the pedals to interfer with internal sounds of you DP?
if the acuna has integrated usb-midi maybe you're better off with using it instead of your saffire ?
When I changed my piano to support USB midi rather than pushing midi data to a EMU usb midi interface it really improved midi latency a lot.
It IS supporting continuous una corda so I don't see why it wouldn't support continuous sustain?
The reason I'd tried to rig it up this way was because I was having problems using with TUSB using USB. It was causing hanging. The keyboard is stable through the Saffire PRO 24. I will continue to experiment till I get no hanging!
Chris, does your Acuna have a midi thru?
It might be that the midi in port of your Acuna filters the information out?
Check the Midi specs for that...
Or do you have an other midi port connected to your computer, that you could connect the pedal to??
Try connect the pedal straight to the Saffire's midi port and see what happens in Pianoteq...cheers
Hans
The Acuna does not have midi through. I HAVE set the MIDI 'in' to the MIDI 'out' that I'm using.
I had already tried your suggestion and yes, the pedals all work through the Saffire pro 24.
The issue seems to be at the keyboard. I'm thinking that it IS filtering out the sustain for some reason, probably a setting needing to be altered. I understand that the sustain number is 64 but don't know what to with this info?
I'll check MIDI spec as you suggest
Chris, are all three of the pedals continuous? Or are any of them continuous? As opposed to simple on/off.
If two of them are showing in Pianoteq in the midi window you can change the controller assignments there (in Pianoteq) so, for example, one of the pedals is routed to sustain (or whatever you'd like it to control). It's also worth checking to see if the problem is one of the pedals. So perhaps take a look to see what happens when you plug all three of the pedals (but one at a time) into one the pedal inputs that seems to be working.
Hope this helps ...
Yes, the pedals are all functional and working and can be assigned switch or continuous. The TUSB is sending all the MIDI out for all three pedals. I have, with the suggestions received here, come to the conclusion that the issue is at the keyboard (process of elimination) and that it is to do with MIDI settings/implementation.
Thank you all for your helpful suggestions. As I said, I shall check the MIDI implantation and try other combinations,
Kindest Regards,
Chris
Chris, I'll see if I can find a downloadable manual for the Acuna to check if there is any option to change.
Does the Acuna have a normal sustain pedal input? Maybe it prioritizes such an input over midi?
cheers
Hans
hmmm - picked up a manual and checked but it doesn't really give much info:
Connect the MIDI Out of another MIDI device with the MIDI In of
the acuna88. Incoming data arriving at the MIDI In are merged
with the MIDI signals of the acuna88. You can assign the MIDI In
to any MIDI Out (MIDI Out 1, MIDI Out 2 or USB, please refer to
page 14 F MIDI In).
And the midi specs are very general - saying it accepts all midi controllers - so sustain (#64) should be accepted and then merged...
Do you have a standard sustain pedal connected as well? If you do, that could be a interfering with merged data, because a pedal that you don't press down would always be at 0...
Otherwise it might be best contacting Studiologic?
cheers
Hans
Thank you Hans. I'll try resetting the Acuna and see if that sorts it. I did have a sustain pedal attached when I started which may have done as you said.
Kindest Regards,
Chris