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Topic: Has anyone tried C3 with the new engine?

Yes, I know it's all about the D4 right now, but I happen to like certain things about the C3, mostly the crystal clarity at the very top end without sounding thin, brittle, metallic, and I also like some of the bite in the lower register. I expect that the impulse reverbs would liven up the sound quite a bit.

If anyone has tried the C3 with the new Pianoteq 4 engine, how does it sound? Is there an appreciable difference vs Pianoteq 3?

Thanks,
Michael

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Re: Has anyone tried C3 with the new engine?

Michael H wrote:

Yes, I know it's all about the D4 right now, but I happen to like certain things about the C3, mostly the crystal clarity at the very top end without sounding thin, brittle, metallic, and I also like some of the bite in the lower register. I expect that the impulse reverbs would liven up the sound quite a bit.

If anyone has tried the C3 with the new Pianoteq 4 engine, how does it sound? Is there an appreciable difference vs Pianoteq 3?

Thanks,
Michael

Sounds good to me. One thing to remember is that it, and I think the other older pianos, load with the older "Legacy reverb." You may want to use one of the new reverbs or load a file for convolution.

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Re: Has anyone tried C3 with the new engine?

I did yesterday. One thing that I did was an A-B comparison between the C3, M3 and D4 (or would it be an A-B-C comparison then ).
In the context of V3 the M3 and C3 were very good but I have to say that now that I can compare them both with the D4 the D4 is the one of choice. Much more character, presence and more important it seems more playable and responsive. But that is my opinion. I didn't hear much difference between V3-M3 and V4-M3 (same for C3).
Reading my answer it just looks like a weird abstract math thing

The most important thing for me is that my jazz-band is very excited with the new D4 sound.

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Re: Has anyone tried C3 with the new engine?

Thanks guys!

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Re: Has anyone tried C3 with the new engine?

I think the legacy pianos in PTQ4 sound quite different to the ones in PTQ3 in the bass range. A little bit more metallic i'd say.

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Re: Has anyone tried C3 with the new engine?

sebion wrote:

I think the legacy pianos in PTQ4 sound quite different to the ones in PTQ3 in the bass range. A little bit more metallic i'd say.

Thanks for your impressions!

I'm not surprised by what you're saying. So far, using the v4 demo,  my impression has been that there's a lot more definition to the midrange sound with Pianoteq 4 which is nice, and more initial attack I believe, but things in general sound more metallic to me, although I haven't really done much editing yet. So I guess the C3 with the v4 engine may behave similarly. A few of the D4 patches that emphasize the low end, sound pretty good to me.

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Re: Has anyone tried C3 with the new engine?

My issue with the legacy pianos in v4 is that they are much harder to mic then the D4. It's a lot easier to get different sounds and feelings with various mic placement with the D4. When trying to do the same with the other instruments there seems to be very few places where you can put the mics and still have it sound good.

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Re: Has anyone tried C3 with the new engine?

Qberticus wrote:

My issue with the legacy pianos in v4 is that they are much harder to mic then the D4. It's a lot easier to get different sounds and feelings with various mic placement with the D4. When trying to do the same with the other instruments there seems to be very few places where you can put the mics and still have it sound good.

Thanks for the reply. I'm thinking that this would be because the v4 engine is so different. Too bad, if so. I guess if someone likes the earlier 'legacy' pianos, like I do, the best thing might be just to keep v3 on hand, but then the nice v4 convolution reverb isn't available.