Topic: Question about Pianoteq, its support and future versions

Hello,

I'm about to purchase one license of Pianoteq by taking advantage of the lower prices of the summer group buy that has recently been closed (that was fast! It lasted only 4 days!).

Only some doubts remain:

- For how long will software support (particularly free updates and add-ons) continue after purchasing the license? I'm not sure if I would pay (even if at a reduced price) for another one (for example, if a major update gets released) or for other add-ons anytime soon.

- I've read that a "pro" version with more features is in the works. Does it mean, since it will have more features (and also be more expensive, I assume), that it will also be more realistic than the "standard" version?

Re: Question about Pianoteq, its support and future versions

I joined the group buy as well. I have tried many sample libraries and hardware solutions recently and though I feel PTQ is still missing something in the way of tone, it is still the most playable piano I have come across. As such, my search is over and I'll be very happy with it for a long time to come. I won't be looking at any new sample libraries for quite a while.

As for pricing and the future (just speculating and rambling):

Regardless of the unique versatility and playability of Pianoteq, it is still competing against an ever-increasing crowd of substituting products in the form of sample libraries.

The current (normal) price is right up there with the top sample libraries (around the $400 mark with the dollar being what it is these days) and though I wouldn't know, I am not sure that this is the best price point.

Competition from hybrid products as well as entirely modelled products is also likely to increase. PTQ being proof of concept (though there is still room for improvement), others are more likely to try their hand at doing their own modelled piano (not sure what patents ModArtt or GEM have to prevent this).

My guess is that the competition will keep a lid on the price, even on the top version of PTQ, whatever it might be. I also suspect that we are going to see it split from the "one product, one price" model into multiple versions with various restrictions, as well as more bundle offers (like the one from Korg).

I also hope that the speed with which this group buy was filled will suggest to the company that the price for the current product should be lowered a bit, and then offer a "Pro" version with access to more of the internal parameters (or whatever) at the current price point. A product at a higher price is unlikely to sell in vast quantities.

In short: I'm not worried. And even when (not if, but when) a substantially better product (PTQ or otherwise) comes out, the cost of paying for a new, full license (if it comes to that) is neglible compared to having to replace a digital piano. I would rather pay $300-$400 every 5 years to replace a piece of software than $2000 to replace a digital stage piano. Come to think of it: In a couple of years, things have improved to the point that I do not expect I am going to need to upgrade anything at all.

So the Roland RD700GX just came out and now it has a sampled piano with - what? - 4 layers? Are we going to wait another 5 years and see a new version with 5 layers? Or are the hardware people going to see the light and follow in GEM's footsteps?

I would like to see something like PTQ built into a stage piano or a hardware module. I suppose a Korg Oasys (Linux?) could do it today or one of the VST boxes, but those are pricey solutions compared to using an old notebook or PC.

Would be interesting to know if ModArtt is working with any of the big guns to have the technology (concepts and algorithms translated to another platform) built into a sub-$2000 piano, but we are sure to be the last to know. Also, I'm not sure how a marketing department would feel about not being able to say "we sampled the finest European grand piano ..."

Re: Question about Pianoteq, its support and future versions

Just wanted to note that I also just decided to buy at €249 when I stumbled upon the group buy. Signed up, waited 3 days, and purchased it at 1/3rd off. Excellent deal.

I would have bought Pianoteq even if there had not been a special offer. A laptop, a good midi keyboard (both of which I already had), plus Pianoteq - what an incredible combination. Just imagine trying to have access to such an instrument at home even just a decade ago!

Am not very concerned about support (the trial version allowed me to verify proper installation and operation), nor future releases (all prior 2.x upgrades have been free, I'm confident that further minor updates will remain so as well).

As for major new releases: it really doesn't matter IMO, given that the current product will evidently not become obsolete regardless what these fine gentlemen pull out of their hat in the future. It's software, there is no wear and tear - I'm looking forward to enjoying this "instrument" for many years to come.

Re: Question about Pianoteq, its support and future versions

s12a wrote:

For how long will software support (particularly free updates and add-ons) continue after purchasing the license? I'm not sure if I would pay (even if at a reduced price) for another one (for example, if a major update gets released) or for other add-ons anytime soon.

For now we cannot tell more about our future products than what we already mentioned here in the forum. But in any case, all customers of the current version will be offered a free upgrade to the next Pianoteq major release. Make sure to subscribe to our newsletter where we will announce all product news.

Re: Question about Pianoteq, its support and future versions

Understood.
Thanks everybody for your replies!

(By the way, I've already purchased the full version! )

Re: Question about Pianoteq, its support and future versions

Hi,

in 9. Upgrade Information of General conditions of sale, it is said that "Each of our products comes with one year of free upgrades". I'd like to know if after that year there are any possibilities to have a discount for reactivation?

Thanks
Nil

Last edited by A-Lin (22-09-2010 11:57)

Re: Question about Pianoteq, its support and future versions

Yes of course, an attractive price will be offered for upgrades, and activation of older versions will be possible regardless of whether or not you choose to upgrade your copy of pianoteq.