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Topic: Repetitions (Grimaldi vs K1)

Repetitions _Grimaldi vs K1_.mp3 - 0.64MB

Repetions played on NUMA Nero reveal variations in separation and articulation of repetitions between different PianoTeq models. (see above link)

You will notice in the mp3 file (link) that there is much better separation and articulation with the Grimaldi than with the K1. I appreciate that this is because on a piano, hammers are heavier, have a different return and phase rate etc.. But I would like to achieve similar separation and articulation on the various piano models as on the harpsichords etc..

Modartt, may we have the option to adjust repetition response for all models please. I for one would be very grateful. In actual fact, I didn't realise my Nero was so good at repetitions until I repeated on the harpsichords.

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Re: Repetitions (Grimaldi vs K1)

Sigasa, there is a thing that can easily help separation: reducing the damping duration in the action panel.

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Re: Repetitions (Grimaldi vs K1)

Thank you Philippe. I'll try that out.

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Re: Repetitions (Grimaldi vs K1)

Practice.

And you must have the Nero on an extremely light touch setting, or it's still got that MIDI velocity 127 hiccup... or you intentionally pound the hell outta the downbeat!

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Re: Repetitions (Grimaldi vs K1)

joshuasethcomposer wrote:

Practice.

And you must have the Nero on an extremely light touch setting, or it's still got that MIDI velocity 127 hiccup... or you intentionally pound the hell outta the downbeat!

I do need to practice repetitions Joshua.
And yes, I was very heavy on the keys!!!

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Re: Repetitions (Grimaldi vs K1)

In actual fact, Modartt have done an exceptional job on creating the realism of the hammer travel and return phases. Extremely realistic. You can almost feel those hammers going in and out of phase (you can certainly hear them!!!). This is the reason you have to practice more on repetitions on a piano than on say, a harsi/clavi chord etc..

p.s. the seperation is better now that I have shortened the damper duration. I will post a more polished version in the near future (when I've practiced somewhat!!!)

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Re: Repetitions (Grimaldi vs K1)

here's a better example of repetitions on the Grimaldi and K1

Repetitions II _Grimaldi vs K1_.mp3 - 0.53MB

it actually DOES help if I practice first doesn't it?!!!!

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Re: Repetitions (Grimaldi vs K1)

Philippe Guillaume wrote:

Sigasa, there is a thing that can easily help separation: reducing the damping duration in the action panel.

All those hints are just outstanding. Maybe one day we should collect them into a "tips" section, like the cockos Reaper forum has one. That would surely be of great help and attract further people. I already mentioned that I am a newb here, but even for loong-time-users advice like this one with the damping duration can still be helpful. Once you tried things out they might seem obvious - but well - that's life...

@sigasa: I'm more than sure a lot of guys would be happy to be able to play like you

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Re: Repetitions (Grimaldi vs K1)

Klemperer wrote:
Philippe Guillaume wrote:

Sigasa, there is a thing that can easily help separation: reducing the damping duration in the action panel.

All those hints are just outstanding. Maybe one day we should collect them into a "tips" section, like the cockos Reaper forum has one. That would surely be of great help and attract further people. I already mentioned that I am a newb here, but even for loong-time-users advice like this one with the damping duration can still be helpful. Once you tried things out they might seem obvious - but well - that's life...

@sigasa: I'm more than sure a lot of guys would be happy to be able to play like you


Thank you Klemperer and welcome to the PianoTeq family

Regards,

Chris