Topic: Pianoteq in the mix

Dear All,

I've just uploaded two mp3s featuring Pianoteq in respective track mixes. "Idle Hill-192" and "The Soldier-224", which are two tracks from my second album.

I used to use the Art Vista Virtual Grand Piano until recently when I changed over to Pianoteq.

"Idle Hill-192" (track title, "On the Idle Hill of Summer" inspired by A.E. Housman's poem, part of the Shropshire Lad cycle of poems) required a modern sounding piano owing to the 'minimalist' arpeggios. It features the M3 and the fxp was a modified version of 'Jakes Steinway' which should still be on the fxp corner.

"The Soldier-224" (track title "The Soldier") is inspired by the Rupert Brooke war poem "The Soldier" (Sonnet V), and required an early 20th century piano. The Pleyel was perfect for this.

Although the realism of the Art Vista Grand Piano (a sampled Steinway) was formidable, its playability and versatility were not. Working with Pianoteq in track mixes is generally very rewarding because of the amount of parameters available and the beauty of the mic placement settings. However, at times, I have found it hard for the higher frequencies to cut through, but normally, careful EQing sorts this out. Using the hammer felt slider also helps, but too much of this sacrifices realism.

There's more Pianoteq on the album ("Out of the Woods", to be released soon), but these two tracks seemed to be the most appropriate to share.

Hope the mp3s are useful,

All the best,

Ian Neal

Re: Pianoteq in the mix

Verrry nice.  I had to channel an ancient and brief infatuation with the Moody Blues to adjust to the spoken word poetry,  but once I recovered from the initial shock it was clear the words were more than schlock faeriism, not to disparage, ha.  The section I was most interested in was the rock section and how good pianoteq sounded therein.  Really impressive!  Nice, full natural and not muddy tone.  Although very well composed and played,  I was a little less enthusiastic about the intro, which had a bit of that for lack of better term "rubbery mid" feel to it.  Rather a trifling criticism, and certainly one coming from a novice.   I seem to think in my quite superficial knowledge of pteq possibilities that the Yamaha has quite a bit of cut (stage mix) while retaining more air than the m3.  I would guess that you are a pretty advanced user-- which version are you using?

Anyway, thx for posting.  I'll have a listen to the other when I can.

Re: Pianoteq in the mix

Nice Fulvia, it reminds me of an old David Bedford record I have somewhere....
He was the guy involved in the early Mike Oldfield stuff ...
Your piece Idle-Hill has the same sort of trance-like repetition stuff going on there and the same sort of orchestral feel as his (Bedfords) work of 'yesteryear'....

further the piano seems to sit in there real well!

cheers
Hans

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Hi fulvia

I can hardly describe what these two songs (especially idle Hill) did to me and my soul

Some music can do something to me that is hard to express with words... like the feeling i have when i have finished listening to "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" with genesis
or one of the great Anthony Phillips albums... (you MUST know both)
The special feeling, that you just where some place else, like in a dream... a dream that stays in your thoughts for days... and somehow you want to be able to go back there and find out more... a feel of longing somehow.... hmmmmm....

I must find out about your album and how to get it.... now !

Thank you so much sharing your music

Kindly
Ole

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kachaloo2002 wrote:

  I would guess that you are a pretty advanced user-- which version are you using?

Standard version - I felt the Play version would be too limiting for me - but can't afford Pro just yet!

I recorded this before buying the YC5 add on along with the electric pianos. And yes, it does cut through nicely, but I think I prefer the richness of the M3.

Thanks for the great (humorous) feedback

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creart wrote:

Nice Fulvia, it reminds me of an old David Bedford record I have somewhere....
He was the guy involved in the early Mike Oldfield stuff ...
Your piece Idle-Hill has the same sort of trance-like repetition stuff going on there and the same sort of orchestral feel as his (Bedfords) work of 'yesteryear'....

further the piano seems to sit in there real well!

cheers
Hans

Hi Hans, thanks for the feedback - I'm aware of David Bedford, but haven't heard any - I'm pretty sure I'd like it - thanks for the tip, Ian.

Re: Pianoteq in the mix

olepro wrote:

Hi fulvia

I can hardly describe what these two songs (especially idle Hill) did to me and my soul

Some music can do something to me that is hard to express with words... like the feeling i have when i have finished listening to "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" with genesis
or one of the great Anthony Phillips albums... (you MUST know both)
The special feeling, that you just where some place else, like in a dream... a dream that stays in your thoughts for days... and somehow you want to be able to go back there and find out more... a feel of longing somehow.... hmmmmm....

I must find out about your album and how to get it.... now !

Thank you so much sharing your music

Kindly
Ole

Ole, many thanks indeed for your keen interest. Early Genesis is indeed a great inspiration for me. You'll find lots of references to them in my first album which I think you've purchased (warmest thanks for your support - I really appreciate it).

I've thought of using the Pteq Yamaha CP80 with a good sloshing of chorus for a future track for a real mid-era Genesis Tony Banks salute.

I wonder if Modartt might consider the RMI electric piano as a companion to the CP80?  I've got a soundfont of one patch which I've used on previous work, but I understand the RMI offered quite a few sounds. That really is "The Lamb" territory!

Many thanks, Ian

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Hi Ian

Listened to your album yesterday, and what a great experience
I'm looking forward to your new release.
Many thanks
Wonderfull to realize that music with more than three chords is still being made !.... and them chords  ;-)
Great production, good blend of instruments, good playing....

Ole

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Hi Ian - I think Bedfords album was called 'the Odyssey'
And yes Genesis and Anthony Phillips come to mind too and considering your feel for orchestration you will probably also like 'Tarka' by Anthony Phillips and Harry Williamson (from 1988)

cheers
Hans

Last edited by creart (23-03-2011 14:10)

Re: Pianoteq in the mix

Just found your website and listening to some tracks and yes - the Genesis/Banks connections clearly shows!!!
good work!!

cheers
Hans

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Well....

I may now have listened to your album "All in the Golden Afternoon" for at least 15 times !

Many many thanks once again Ian for making this great music

All the best

Ole

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Ole, I'm really delighted that you like it, and thank you for your support.

The second album, "Out of the Woods", which features the two tracks on the forum here, and some other instances of Pianoteq, will be released digitally via the website on April 2nd.
All the best,
Ian

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Wow, that's really great !
Looking forward...