Sound Magic Blue Grand 3d

To me, the variation of tone is just not subtle enough.

Curiously track 3 in their demo is titled "premiumcrap"? That's no way to sell a product!

This looks familiar. I'm sure this featured in these forums before.
This one did:
http://www.soundemon.com/products/spdemo.htm

ok I got it "Fantasie Impromptu"...beautiful

To my ears it also sounds as if the notes are not sustaining properly also. I also thought the same of "TruePianos" when I played it, it sounds similar to me in that regard.

Crap !!!!!!!  Like all other hybrid (few sampled with few modelling)

I tested Imperial Grand.  No Sympathetic ressonance., Poor tone, poor color, poor dynamics.

I'm tired of just see new craps on competitors.

Hello All,

What can I say? ... the vendor is at the beginning of his learning curve.  He has much to learn, and requires feedback from his customers and demo users.  I have nothing but good wishes to the vendor, as he is embarking on a long journey of modeling a living and breathing piano.

The [lack of good] sound from the competitor's modeled pianos shows -- by comparison -- just how far that Pianoteq's product knowledge, applied mathematical expertise and the various modeled instruments have progressed in the past several years. 

Cheers,

Joe

Hello BazC,

I tried to choose my words carefully when talking about a company's efforts being at the beginning of the learning curve.  It seems to me that Modartt (in approximately four years plus development time prior to issuing Pianoteq Version I) has learned a great deal more than Sound Magic has learned in three years plus its own development time.

Sound Magic's focus seems to be aimed more at the peripherals at this time, than capturing the actual sound of a piano.  Witness, for example, all of the simulations of various name brand microphones.

The eventual success of any business venture depends upon the business listening to its customers needs and desires, and then acting upon them.  In my opinion, Modartt has been phenomenally successful because its constituents actually listen and respond to its customers' needs and desires.

Cheers,

Joe

Come on folks...

Let's cut this bull - of "modeled with few sampler".  There is no such thing. 
This software, or True Pianos and other similar, are just a sampler, a cheap low size sampler of few recorded sound bank for notes, and cheap algorithms to try to create more colors and some ressonance.

Modelled pianos, I mean true modelled pianos, are things like pianoteq and probably V-Piano.

Honestly, I feel offended, insulted, when I see the such advertsing of "inovative", "high-technology", and get a cheap poor piano sound and feeling.

I don't dare to call thess toys, cheap sampler plus cheap algorithms, as modelled.

Digital piano softwares it's a field like Photoshop plugin, almost anyone can get in, and as result you have some nice things, as Pianoteq and Ivory, and for other side you get this crap that try to be inovative, but are no more than a waste.

I know what you mean, you try to word your post so it won't be misunderstood and it still get's taken the wrong way, sorry. I wasn't meaning to argue with you, just adding some information.

@ DonSmith, thanks for the link, I must have read that before and forgotten about it! That thread discusses their old "Supreme Piano" though, the Blue Piano has only just been released so I would hope it's an improvement on the old one.

I'm not sure why you say that, the latest offerings from Yamaha and Roland mix sampling with modelling and reputedly sound superb. I've not had a chance to try one but the recordings of the CP1 CP5 and CP50 plus Rolands superNatural pianos sound great to me.

I posted this because I found it interesting and thought others might too, I fancied trying the software and couldn't but I thought maybe someone else might like to try it and comment. Why it's engendered such hostility is beyond me though perhaps I shouldn't be surprised. I've often posted with enthusiasm about Pianoteq on other forums only to be told how crap PTQ is and that I should be using Ivory or whatever sampled piano they happen to favour.

I'm not sure why I bother. In my opinion they all have their merits and are all of interest. I've had it with this thread so by all means carry on and use it as you see fit.

There's surprisingly lot of fanaticism in the field of piano sound. I can clearly see it here and elsewhere too. Pianoteq is a marvelous product - no doubt about that - but it's not so perfect that there's no room for other options.

For me it's one nice addition to my acoustic and digital piano setup. Still I wouldn't sell my acoustic Kawai, Roland or Nord. In a way I like them all.
(Only thing I was very disappointed was Ivory (and II was not any better) and in fact I sold it. So to me it's no convincing to say something is better than Ivory...)

And yes, those companies like Roland and Nord are using technology which combine sampling and modeling with great success. For example my Nord Piano has a nice string resonance. So please guys, do not underestimate all those companies which are providing new piano sounds. Have tried for example Roland's Supernatural Pianos, Nord piano or new Yamahas?

IMO Pianoteq would become maybe even better if here on the forum we might hear more real arguments pro and against it. Now it seems to me that we only appraise it and dismiss others. (and similar thing is happening on the other forums like BazC said) Many professional players have in fact tried Pianoteq and felt that there were some nice features in it but sound was not good enough for them. How something can be developed if everybody think it's perfect...?