Topic: feature request - zoom for mic placement

Since moving a mic just a bit can have dramatic impact on the sound it would be great if we were able to zoom in on the image and could more precisely place the mics.

Another question: what part of the visible mic is actually the 'pickup' point - is that really the tip of the microphone?

Re: feature request - zoom for mic placement

creart wrote:

Since moving a mic just a bit can have dramatic impact on the sound it would be great if we were able to zoom in on the image and could more precisely place the mics.

Another question: what part of the visible mic is actually the 'pickup' point - is that really the tip of the microphone?


Thanks for asking - I've been wondering too.  And do they point in any particular direction?

Glenn

Last edited by Glenn NK (18-12-2009 08:47)
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Re: feature request - zoom for mic placement

Judging from where the mic sits when you set the values of x and y to 0 it might be part of that tip on the upper right.  setting z to zero leaves part of the mic below what appears to be the floor...

Just a bit of a guess though.  Can't get much information from going all the way up or left and right though.

It was mentioned in another thread that the mics act are pretty much like perfect omni mics.  They're just picking the sound up right out of the air.  They have no shape and no mechanical parts that have to pick up the sound so rotating them to point different directions wouldn't change anything I would assume.

Re: feature request - zoom for mic placement

ya I asked before if they could be rotated - but they are 'perfect omni's'...
but still since the image of the mic is very large compared to the piano, zooming in would be nice and apart from that, if you know which part of the image is the 'actual' mic it would be easier to keep track of placement, especially since I found a link to some Shure mic recording techniques with diagrams for placement...
here's that link once more:
http://www.wikirecording.org/Guide_to_Recording_Pianos

Re: feature request - zoom for mic placement

Sorry to bump a months-old thread, but better than starting a new one (hate repeated topics when you could just search to see if something's been discussed before). Anyway..

The mic placing feature of Pianoteq is a really useful way of changing the tonal colour of the sound, although it shouldn't be really should it?

Strangely then,  it is possible I have found to make the C3 sound like the K1 just by dragging the microphones a millimeter or 2 vertically up the screen when in close to the piano...! Its fun but also a bit disturbing. I don't mean to criticise the user interface or the clever guys at Modartt who are Gods let's face it, but rather than asking users for their post-processing wish lists, perhaps this feature should be re-visited first??

A zoom-in feature is the way to go I think, so that a millimeter dragging of a microphone on screen corresponds to a millimeter drag in the "room" would help lessen and control the surprisingly extreme changes in the resulting sound.

Re: feature request - zoom for mic placement

I'd like to remember that control clicking (on mac, dunno on pc) on a mic, a windows with numerical mic's coordinates opens. Here you can do precise positioning if needed.

Re: feature request - zoom for mic placement

etto wrote:

I'd like to remember that control clicking (on mac, dunno on pc) on a mic, a windows with numerical mic's coordinates opens. Here you can do precise positioning if needed.

Yes, I know about the co-ordinates, but seems a shame to have a nice graphical UI which only works for broad sweeping changes and have to resort to x, y and z axes for precise numerical input. Most of us are pianists not geometrists, and since by including such a nice graphical approach to this feature in the first place,  I don't understand why the programmers don't go the extra mile and include a zoom feature - thereby retaining the visual approach to even the smallest changes in mic positioning..?

Re: feature request - zoom for mic placement

If you want close and precise mic placements, and thinks it alters a lot the sound, I supose you will desire a precise schematic representation of notes position in the instrument.

Did you noticed that the marimba schematic drawing, in the Mic placement window, it's not true ?

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It's the same of xylophone and vibraphone, way shorter in octaves range than the marimba octaves range.


creart wrote:

Since moving a mic just a bit can have dramatic impact on the sound it would be great if we were able to zoom in on the image and could more precisely place the mics.

Another question: what part of the visible mic is actually the 'pickup' point - is that really the tip of the microphone?

Last edited by Beto-Music (16-09-2010 18:41)