'ave ya' seen this?

Ugly front lid !!!

Tell me folks, how many years we heard this same old talking ???

---" Thanks to our RSM (Real Sound Modeling) engine, EUROGRAND instruments sound just like a real acoustic grand...  " ---

  From almost 10 years ago manufactures says their idigital instrument sounds like a real acoustic grand piano.  But no digital piano had ever get that, even V-piano.

For only  2649 USD , a low price for a digital Baby Grand that would use a inovative sound generation...    I bet it just another ordinary digital piano with a simple modelled sympathetic ressonance.

I'm afraid the word "modelled" will became a fashion, and many products will use that just because they model a very tiny aspect of that in some place, even than use sampling for most.

  It wil  be like the word  "diet"  or "light" or "low sugar" in food products.

I think the Behringer thing is just an old-fashioned sample player.  Nothing in their manual or on their site about modelling, although they toss the word in. Modelling, here, probably means a low pass filter. They don't say how many velocity layers are used.  Like Beto-Music says, the word "modelled" will become a fashion, without regard to its meaning.

Not so sure about the Yamaha. They say they're using samples and modelling, but they're very vague about their methods (marketing-talk). The instrument seems to offer no control over whatever might be modelled and no software editor is listed on their download site. Their modelling may mean adding some high freq sine tones to low strike samples and including extra sounds for dampering.

If any special filter combined with sampler can be called modelle piano... my Roland F-90 could be a modelled digital piano, cause have a good repedaling function, while simple sampler piano libraries didn't had it.

So, like a said, the fashion of modelling is coming...  Let's use this funny word in everything around...  Háaa háaa háaaaa...
Sarcasm !

I think Modartt should change some things, like start to claim pianoteq as Truly Fully Modelled, and not just modelled.  Just to make justice.

Yamaha CP1 is sampled instrument, with few "modelling" things.

Remamber one thing, in marketing the weaker things are never spoken, while some exclusive charasteristics are usually over spoken.
So if a digital piano just appear to say a little that is modelled, in a time true modelled it's a a very rare thing, so surely is not, cause if was they would speak  in all directions over and over.

"Max. 64-note polyphony" -- 64-NOTE POLYPHONY?!?!?!?

In THIS day and age?????!?

I can't even get all of the keys to sound at the same time???

Plus, the dang thing's 150 lbs. (almost 200 if you get the "fake grand" version), and you'd probably have to get a "real amp" or two (80W speakers for a piano -- are you JOKING???!).  If I want to break my back, then I'll get a real piano, thank you very much...

(I'd sure as heck rather spend the MSRP of US$2649.99 on a real piano, anyway -- or, better yet, a new computer!!!)

Oh, but it has THREE pedals -- goodness bless 'em, I was all wrong, I'll buy one immediately!!!

(Sorry, just had to get that out of my system.)

As a house sound engineer in Karlsruhe one dryly told me, "Behringer: German for 'cheap crap'."

I've owned a small Behringer mixer that was very good. But the ads for this keyboard mention modelling, which it clearly doesn't use, once you read the manual for the keyboard, and neither the ad nor the manual give details about the samples. And it's fairly expensive. All of that is what's causing the ire.

And there's probably some residual ire at the many companies that are doing similar things, using old technology while creating instruments that are far behind the Ensoniqs, say, of twenty years ago, but claiming they are advanced.

In all fairness, I have to mention that several points (which I noted before) essentially guarantee that this thing invites (read:  deserves) the negative attitude.  I'm certainly not commenting on the preset sounds (though I wouldn't hold high hopes for them), but come on:  this thing's obviously a bit of a half-@$$#D product.

I had a Behringer keyboard amp for my Kawai, and -- believe me -- it was nothing special.  I only bought it because it came at a special low, low price with the keyboard -- the "special" price should have been the overly-optimistic MSRP, quite frankly...

Hey, I'm all in favour of good competition -- but while Pianoteq may have some "shortcomings" (i.e., it's still not a real piano, which I can easily manage), it still rules the roost -- IMHumO.

This Behringer Beast seems like a rather expensive piece of furniture (read:  doorstop -- HA!) more than anything which could even remotely compare to my setup.