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Michael H wrote:
I had a Hammond that had 12 bass pedals, REALLY dumb idea.
Mine is much worse: it has 25 ones and I can't play all them at once
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Jope wrote:
I think control is it what makes instruments convince even if they don't sound like known real instruments.
+1
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iaoranaemaeva wrote:
Michael H wrote:I had a Hammond that had 12 bass pedals, REALLY dumb idea.
Mine is much worse: it has 25 ones and I can't play all them at once
I actually DID play all notes at once on a 25 note pedalboard one time: I was on stage and the organ bench collapsed, depositing me on top of the pedals. My brother recalls hearing a rumbling coming from the vicinity of the organ, but not seeing me, then seeing my arm reach up from below the organ to push in the pedal drawbars and stop the sound
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Michael:
Was the organ rumbling or was it you?
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I'm impressed that you had the presence of mind to actually look around at the pedalboard carefully and verify that all 25 pedals were depressed.
Greg.
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Glenn NK wrote:
Michael:
Was the organ rumbling or was it you?
Glenn
Ha-ha, very funny I was mumbling, the organ was rumbling, at least I THINK that's the way it went
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skip wrote:
I'm impressed that you had the presence of mind to actually look around at the pedalboard carefully and verify that all 25 pedals were depressed.
Greg.
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Back to the topic;
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Not sure that this is heresy, but after experimenting with PTQ;
YES - I am impressed, but after actually playing for a while I don't think I "get" much more from it than I have been "getting" from my now very old and far from state of the art hardware sound generators.
It produces GREAT sound, no question about it.
I just don't derive MUCH greater pleasure from it than I am getting from old hardware.
I don't think I have "tin ears", I just seem to get much more into playing that hearing.
I have been playing very limited stuff due to the disabled notes and 20 minute time limit, but I don't see myself being enthralled if those restrictions are lifted - for 250 Euros or so.
It isn't a 250 Euros (~$300) pleasure improvement - to ME.
Of course this is SO subjective, but music is like that (-:
I guess I'm more into playing music (trying to) than listening to emulations and artifacts of sound generation.
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aandrmusic wrote:
(...) It isn't a 250 Euros (~$300) pleasure improvement - to ME.
Of course this is SO subjective, but music is like that (-:I guess I'm more into playing music (trying to) than listening to emulations and artifacts of sound generation.
If one enjoys playing music on whatever he thinks is fun, people will enjoy listening... At least for a limited time. What is a high quality tone generator? I happened to listen to someone who played with mallets on tuned bottles, and it sounded... Unearthly beautiful.
I think you can appreciate Panoteq's quality only if you are positive you want a virtual piano at all - if you compare it to sample based software pianos or sythesizers.
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aandrmusic wrote:
It produces GREAT sound, no question about it.
I just don't derive MUCH greater pleasure from it than I am getting from old hardware.
This means you already had some pleasure playing old digital piano hardware (or "sampled" software)?
But for other pianists, it is like black and white: they get (almost) no pleasure playing a digital piano, even a $389 virtual Steinway .
Pianoteq began to change the scene. For these pianists, even if Pianoteq is far from perfection, it may be worth 250 € (325 USD).
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aandrmusic wrote:
It produces GREAT sound, no question about it.
I just don't derive MUCH greater pleasure from it than I am getting from old hardware
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IMO, anytime we can get into the music, really zone in, we're fortunate. And it sounds like you're able to do that right now, with whatever you're using for an instrument. Cool beans
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Well, to me, the advantage of PianoTeq is partly that one has much more control over the sound. Some other piano emulations may give pleasure, but the user is locked into the sound of the original samples. And to me, modelling just makes the sound much more alive--the strings have more individual presence, and interact with each other more, and the sound reacts to my playing much more.
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Jake Johnson wrote:
Well, to me, the advantage of PianoTeq is partly that one has much more control over the sound.
For me, it's "mainly"
(..) to me, modelling just makes the sound much more alive--the strings have more individual presence, and interact with each other more, and the sound reacts to my playing much more.
We Pianoteq users have this feeling, but it may be auto-suggestion