Topic: Patrick's mic set-up with mistakes that may work for close rock

This started out as an attempt to emulate the 4 mic setup used by Patrick to record the EBVT with just 12ths. I wasn't watching the front view of our mics page, and mistakenly pulled some mics too far to the left. But the result may be of interest: Not the sound that Patrick gets. Instead  a close-up, slightly rattly, more percussive piano that can serve as a starting point for solo older rock, singer-songwriter arrangements. That's all this is--a lot of harp sound and lid sound, with much of the sound trapped close to the player, even though the reverb is on. You may want to add more reverb. Sounds better to play than in the mp3.

http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/uploads.p...micing.mp3

http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/uploads.p...ng%20I.fxp


A very few other changes were made to the default K1 Close mic --mainly shortening the strings, since Patrick recorded with that small Yamaha and gets such a good, but very different sound. Still working on that. (The thread at PW describes his mic set up on page 29 (http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthre...99/30.html) and the photo on page 27 of that thread (http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthre...99/27.html) shows the actual mic arrangement used in his two recordings. The mics to the right are adding a little bass. No delays, gain compensation, etc. A rare thing, really, to have a set of close recordings with a fairly close-up photo of the exact mic arrangement used. )

EDIT: Just looked up the mics. That little old Yamaha has $6,000 of mics pointed at it. The Neumanns are around 1K each, and the two DPA cardoids under the hood are twice that.

Last edited by Jake Johnson (29-03-2010 17:33)

Re: Patrick's mic set-up with mistakes that may work for close rock

(The strings should actually be shorter if trying to emulate the sound of the real piano. The Yamaha G2 is 5'7," which is about 1.7 meters. May sound good with even shorter strings, too. Try around 1.44, creating a deeper dip in the velocity curve\dynamics if it gets loud too easily.)

Last edited by Jake Johnson (29-03-2010 20:59)

Re: Patrick's mic set-up with mistakes that may work for close rock

Speaking of mic setups it would be nice if we could do a copy/paste with the microphone screen just like we can with some of the other pianoteq settings.  That might make it easier to have multiple mic setups around and make it slightly easier to share those as well on the forums without having to post an entire fxp for each mic setup.