I guess I shouldn't say it, but the 3.0 package doesn't give you any add ons. Even after you download the 3,5 version, you can't play the other stuff, because some keys are disabled. Another 150 bucks for an upgrade to pro, expensive. Then I wonder what you don't get, again! More notes disabled, more doe. I do like the piano sounds, but I think there getting a bit steep on costs. It is no wonder people are always trying to get torrent software.
Uhm...
Huh?
I think it's pretty clear what you get for the price - and then you make your own choice whether you think it's worth it.
Ummm...Did you register and go to the User's area? You can download the ptq there that has the CP-80, Erard, Bechstein, Schoffstoss, Walter, Graf, Schmidt, Schantz, Grimaldi, Blanchet, Cimbalom, and the separate ptq for the bells. Here's the description of these free add-ons:
http://www.pianoteq.com/free_addons
Two of these are pianos, so that gives the user four pianos, five pianofortes, two harpischords, the CP80, and the Cimbalom. (And the bells, which admittedly may be of less use, but are nonetheless good.)
And you can load any fxp that was created in the Pro version, for any of these instruments. (See the Files area of the forum.) Some you will like, some not. A lot to explore there. (The very oldest ones may not sound wonderful in the latest version, since the model has changed a bit.)
The extra 150 for the Pro version is well worth a future investment. I don't mean to lecture, but that upgrade gives you the ability to shape the sound far, far more than any set of samples can be shaped, or V-Piano, which has about a third of the number of parameters...
And when additional instruments are released, they are less expensive than most similar additions to Kontakt, etc. And PianoTeq loads in 10 seconds or so, will play on a Netbook, and requires no second hard drive or extra RAM, as large sample libraries often do....Also has its own midi recorder and player in the standalone version and lets you record a midi file directly to a wave file.
I think you're coming off a bit rude here. Jake explains everything nicely.
You get a lot flexibility for the money.
Yea! I know it comes off as being a bit rude. I like the software. I did think I was getting the newer version when I bought the software. I guess I was wrong. It's O.K.., I'll upgrade later. I just wanted to remind people of the high costs of software, and I don't agree with the 3 PC only thing. But, that's also an issue with other software. I only mentioned it because some of my friends are computer programmers and they also think software is to expensive. I know there are some reading this forum. Anyhow, I do like the software and I do plan on upgrading later. Of course who needs a bunch of piano's setting around the house needing tuning anyhow, this is much easier, a lot of piano's in one convenient little box, who knows, maybe the price of software will come down in the future, "You know" supply and demand. Peace!
I can't help it, I have to put in my two cents here.
Pianoteq is inexpensive. This is what I believe. It doesn't mean it's cheap. I'm not so sure you can imagine how much work is needed to assemble such a piece of software. It's not only numbers, it is in fact a musical instrument that has been elaborated from the beginning to now (and will hopefully in the future) with passion for details... It's not only maths but listening, trying, talking with many musicians, reconceiving and listening again... This takes huge amounts of time, and software developers are still humans who need to survive somehow.
It is inexpensive.
If PianoBoy thinks it's expensive, then it is expensive - for him, and there's nothing wrong with him thinking that. Personally, I never dreamt that we'd have a modelled piano that works in real time on a home PC in my lifetime, and I think it's an absolute bargain. Even if every instrument in Pianoteq cost as much as the full product, I still would not have complained.
Greg.
Don't give Modartt any ideas, they might raise the price! ;-)
If PianoBoy thinks it's expensive, then it is expensive - for him, and there's nothing wrong with him thinking that. Personally, I never dreamt that we'd have a modelled piano that works in real time on a home PC in my lifetime, and I think it's an absolute bargain. Even if every instrument in Pianoteq cost as much as the full product, I still would not have complained.
Greg.
Look at it this way - how many hour's work would PianoBoy need to do before he could afford to buy Pianoteq?
And how many hours work did Modartt need to do to make Pianoteq...?
And how many hours work did Modartt need to do to make Pianoteq...?
More than average. (that's how Paul Hogan would answer this question, anyway. ;^)
Greg.
If PianoBoy thinks it's expensive, then it is expensive - for him, and there's nothing wrong with him thinking that.
As I said: That's what I believe. And of course what's wrong isn't him but the word "rip". But I do like the word "peace".
It is no wonder people are always trying to get torrent software.
I consider that an absolutely heinous concept. As someone who is nowhere near to being wealthy (quite the opposite, in fact!), the act of torrenting software -- especially concerning a high-quality/low-profile piece of software like Pianoteq, developed by a small, dedicated group of people -- appalls me. Torrenting is outright thievery.
(In fact, most _good_ audio software is made by one person or a few people. When the larger companies take over, the great sucking sound begins...)
The list of software which I _do_ own would knock most people on their @$$#$ (in some cases, from laughing, but mostly out of sheer awe), and I have paid every cent necessary to legitimately own all of that software. (Occasionally, sales, group buys, and other special offers have made things easier for me.)
From my perspective, as someone who lives mostly paycheck-to-paycheck to support my music interests, the cost-to-value ratio afforded by Pianoteq is excellent. And the separate add-ons are relatively cheap, while still able to give MODARTT a nice "shot in the arm" once in a while.
I've literally thrown money away on a fair number of audio programs which ended up going nowhere over the years; happily, I can say that purchasing Pianoteq is one investment that's made me very happy for almost two years now.
I think Modartt should pay us to use their software and furthermore I think everyone on this forum should rake my leaves this Saturday (even if you are across the pond) and bring their own lunch and enough for me to eat too... JMHO.
Furthermore I think everyone on this forum should rake my leaves this Saturday (even if you are across the pond) and bring their own lunch and enough for me to eat too... JMHO.
I'll take the next plane to Memphis, then Tupelo, and invade your compound presently!!!
(Couldn't resist. :-)
Well, at least I raised some eyebrows. Shock mode! Aside from expensive versus not expensive, I have noticed that the keys of my keyboard seem easier to strike now, where I use to have to strike them a bit harder. One thing the very last highest key on my 88 keys keyboard, seems to have a thud sound to it. I have to really strike it to get a ring out of it. Is there a particular setting for this, that may bring out that one little key a bit better.
One thing the very last highest key on my 88 keys keyboard, seems to have a thud sound to it. I have to really strike it to get a ring out of it. Is there a particular setting for this, that may bring out that one little key a bit better.
It's the 'Thor's Hammer' setting found under the options menu in Pianoteq (I couldn't resist).
Getting serious, or MORE serious anyway, there are several small software apps for velocity adjustment, including one that can do it on a note by note basis, although the name of that app escapes me.