Another wonderful piano model for Pianoteq!
Thank you, Modartt team.
The YFX is a great addition to the diverse collection of pianos available for Pianoteq each with its own distinctive character, including Modartt's own K2.
Very good first impression… Much more enjoyable than old YC5. A great instrument…
Too bad an agreement wasn't reached with Yamaha, the « placebo » effect would make it even better.
Congratulations to the Modartt team on another great instrument in the Pianoteq family.
A piano modeled on the Yamaha CFX has been long awaited and here it is.
I'm happy to see that the lack of an agreement with Yamaha hasn't prevented Modartt from releasing this great piano.
An agreement would have been desirable, and seeing the official logo would have been cool, but I'm sure this doesn't detract from the instrument's quality in the slightest.
Thank you very much for this new instrument, and let's get on with the 'Grand Italian IF308'
Really liking the new YFX; great work!
Man you got to like the bass tone, don't you?
Personally, I do with the apparent 'upfrontness' I'm also perceiving in stereo imaging; a noticeable improvement!
Before I forget, yay is what I wanna say, of course to the return of the mic polar patterns, which are back. (No longer I got to have a copy of version eight (v.8) opened, simultaneously, just for me to choose correctly between the various microphones.)
Some of which again I very easily will distinguish about yay apart from others appearing on my uploaded fxp's. (Smile.)
Cant find it in the app/plugin to demo?
Cant find it in the app/plugin to demo?
Update the app
Glad to see my ears still serve me well despite the age. I guess nobody will object to the purchase since I guessed right... RIght?
MotionMindz wrote:Cant find it in the app/plugin to demo?
Update the app
Yep, that was it. Ok, reminder for next time a new product expansion pops up.
Fantastic! Just in time for the Black Friday sale (hopefully) later this month.
https://pianoclack.s3.us-east-1.amazona...2-no-1.mp3
Not vanilla - concert recording preset with small tweaks but also disabled limiter and lowered reverb, used external reverb and saturators
Another wonderful piano model for Pianoteq!
Thank you, Modartt team.The YFX is a great addition to the diverse collection of pianos available for Pianoteq each with its own distinctive character, including Modartt's own K2.
Looking forward to put my hands on this one.
I’m not impressed.
More of the same sounds already existing on the other piano’s.
Plus another floaty bla bla review.
Dare to push that parameters where your mouse is continual hovering over and compare it with the other piano’s, that would be a review!
Modartt should go for quality instead of quantity.
I’m not impressed.
More of the same sounds already existing on the other piano’s.
Plus another floaty bla bla review.
Dare to push that parameters where your mouse is continual hovering over and compare it with the other piano’s, that would be a review!
Modartt should go for quality instead of quantity.
In my opinion the sound is pretty accurate to a real CFX. One thing I will nitpick on is how its stereo imaging is very "closed" and mono focused compared to the Kawai SK-EX which has one of the best stereo image (in my opinion!) for use on a digital piano (Even with the basic player preset, and yes I did try the same microphone setup on both). Among minor issues with tone its honestly really nice and enjoyable but some of us have different tastes.
Hi,
Adding new pianos is great work!
However, I think this piano has a rather jazzy character, whereas Yamaha pianos tend to sound brighter.
I also noticed some beats while listening. For example:
A4 to B4
B♭4 to B4
E♭5 to C#5
Please check the video (A4 to B4):
https://s101.picofile.com/d/fG9MNLszegF...rkHu/1.mp4
https://pianoclack.s3.us-east-1.amazona...2-no-1.mp3
Not vanilla - concert recording preset with small tweaks but also disabled limiter and lowered reverb, used external reverb and saturators
Whenever you want to get away possibly from your imparting a sterile-like, digital, or even clinical impression left with listeners, saturation seems the best possible means available to you, er way to go!
That by itself, might make most modern virtual instruments somehow sound real. (I mean of course physically real just like their physio-acoustic counterparts similarly recorded.)
However, I think this piano has a rather jazzy character, whereas Yamaha pianos tend to sound brighter.
You've quite a characterization —jazzy.
Do you seriously imply that the piano is unlike anything from YAMAHA and that it's only good enough for jazz —but nothing classical or otherwise serious musicianship?
You've quite a characterization —jazzy.
Do you seriously imply that the piano is unlike anything from YAMAHA and that it's really only good enough for jazz —hardly classical or seldom serious musicianship?
Of course i do.
YFX has a soft, jazzy sound.
Yamaha pianos are commonly used for classical and New Age music.
The best pianos that are also suitable for jazz include the Bösendorfer 290, Baldwin SD-10, and finally, Steinway D.
I hope Modartt someday add new instruments: Baldwin SD-10 and Bösendorfer 290
I had been editing my reply as you posted yours:
You've quite a characterization —jazzy.
Do you seriously imply that the piano is unlike anything from YAMAHA and that it's only good enough for jazz —but nothing classical or otherwise serious musicianship?
Of course i do.
YFX has a soft, jazzy sound.
Yamaha pianos are commonly used for classical and New Age music.
To some extent I agree, wholeheartedly, since the newly released YFX comes with presets obviously inspired by both classical and jazz genres. But, it also includes some seemingly intended toward the New Age. Man, and there ain't nothing about jazz that can make that common —if you know what I mean. You get me?
YFX has a soft, jazzy sound.
Yamaha pianos are commonly used for classical and New Age music.
The best pianos that are also suitable for jazz include the Bösendorfer 290, Baldwin SD-10, and finally, Steinway D.
Well, I like to add that among many others jazz performers Cyrus Chestnut and an ex of mine have repeatedly played on pianos manufactured by YAMAHA. Which you also may use for jazz certainly in addition to the YFX that you suggest.
Just take a look at one of my YouTube posts —about this ex who can frequently play at an official YAMAHA— and see for yourself:
https://youtu.be/jAebsic1eYs?si=-bZB0h78KjK3dSXw
If my memory serves, the woman has been herself officially endorsed by YAMAHA at some point.
Anyway, let me be the first to welcome you to this opened forum...
Do have an enjoyable stay!
Hi,
Adding new pianos is great work!
However, I think this piano has a rather jazzy character, whereas Yamaha pianos tend to sound brighter.
I also noticed some beats while listening. For example:
A4 to B4
B♭4 to B4
E♭5 to C#5Please check the video (A4 to B4):
https://s101.picofile.com/d/fG9MNLszegF...rkHu/1.mp4
This is Garritan CFX:
https://pianoclack.s3.us-east-1.amazona...an-cfx.mp3
It’s way brighter, you prefer this then?
This is Garritan CFX:
https://pianoclack.s3.us-east-1.amazona...an-cfx.mp3
It’s way brighter, you prefer this then?
Nice!
I hope YFX keeps improving its default base sound and gets rid of the unwanted beats.
Pianoteq is pretty much the only piano software I genuinely enjoy using.
I love pianos with new age + classical sound.
dikrek wrote:This is Garritan CFX:
https://pianoclack.s3.us-east-1.amazona...an-cfx.mp3
It’s way brighter, you prefer this then?
Nice!
I hope YFX keeps improving its default base sound and gets rid of the unwanted beats.Pianoteq is pretty much the only piano software I genuinely enjoy using.
I love pianos with new age + classical sound.
In normal temperament beating is a normal behaviour ; On a real acoustic , notes in the middle register produce noticeable interference between partials and also due to unison tuning , specially on a new piano . I would recommend changing the condition slider first , then change the unison ( particularly if you hear beating playing notes individually) and reduce sympathetic resonance . Note that 2 persons doing the same test will have different perceptions as the response to frequencies vary from one person to the next . Also worth mentioning that a piano with no beating will sound sterile , inharmonicity and partials are part of the piano sound . Cheers
Minoo wrote:dikrek wrote:This is Garritan CFX:
https://pianoclack.s3.us-east-1.amazona...an-cfx.mp3
It’s way brighter, you prefer this then?
Nice!
I hope YFX keeps improving its default base sound and gets rid of the unwanted beats.Pianoteq is pretty much the only piano software I genuinely enjoy using.
I love pianos with new age + classical sound.In normal temperament beating is a normal behaviour ; On a real acoustic , notes in the middle register produce noticeable interference between partials and also due to unison tuning , specially on a new piano . I would recommend changing the condition slider first , then change the unison ( particularly if you hear beating playing notes individually) and reduce sympathetic resonance . Note that 2 persons doing the same test will have different perceptions as the response to frequencies vary from one person to the next . Also worth mentioning that a piano with no beating will sound sterile , inharmonicity and partials are part of the piano sound . Cheers
In my YFX example earlier I’ve tweaked some settings - what would you improve?
In normal temperament beating is a normal behaviour ; On a real acoustic , notes in the middle register produce noticeable interference between partials and also due to unison tuning , specially on a new piano . I would recommend changing the condition slider first , then change the unison ( particularly if you hear beating playing notes individually) and reduce sympathetic resonance . Note that 2 persons doing the same test will have different perceptions as the response to frequencies vary from one person to the next . Also worth mentioning that a piano with no beating will sound sterile , inharmonicity and partials are part of the piano sound . Cheers
Beating is minimum in ideal pianos.
I hope the team review for the beatings and the piano tone.
Pianistically wrote:In normal temperament beating is a normal behaviour ; On a real acoustic , notes in the middle register produce noticeable interference between partials and also due to unison tuning , specially on a new piano . I would recommend changing the condition slider first , then change the unison ( particularly if you hear beating playing notes individually) and reduce sympathetic resonance . Note that 2 persons doing the same test will have different perceptions as the response to frequencies vary from one person to the next . Also worth mentioning that a piano with no beating will sound sterile , inharmonicity and partials are part of the piano sound . Cheers
Beating is minimum in ideal pianos.
I hope the team review for the beatings and the piano tone.
Do you hear a lot of beating in the demo file I posted?
Do you hear a lot of beating in the demo file I posted?
Beatings cann't be heard in polyphonic musics easily.
What I hear are these beats in the default Classical Recording preset:
• A4 to B4
• A4 to Ab4
• Ab4 to B4
• Eb5 to C#5
Changing the default parameters of presets requires a very high level of technical knowledge, and it is beyond the expertise of 95% of students and teachers.
That's why I suggested that the Team review them.