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Once in a while, requests for new piano models pop up in this forum. Here is my wish list.
When I bought my VPC1 it came with velocity curves for Ravenscroft, Alicias keys etc. This is why I have a Ravenscroft VST and Alicias Keys as VST. And than many more, largely from NI.
Also Pianoreq I bought because there was a curve deliverd with the VPC1 Editor. Maybe otherwise I would have never heard about pianoteq.
But with pianoteq, my piano practice has become very exiting. I could pick a Piano and a preset that did sit well with what I tried to learn. That choice added exitement and motivation to keep going. And there is a hughe appetite to have more choices.
And, allready having a Ravenscroft VST - I want a Ravenscroft Piano Model in Pianoteq.
NIs Claire is said to be based on a Fazioli - I want a Fazioli Piano Model in Pianoteq.
Because having these fine Instruments behaving like the real thing, just like all the other Models available, seems to be so much better than triggering pre-recorded samples.
And, from looking at former posts asking for Fazioli (and I think even Ravenscroft was mentioned sometimes) I am in good company wishing our choices to expand.

If it is possible to make the physical model even better than it is today, I think I would update (even if CPU load does increase).
But adding a Fazioli and a Ravenscroft Instrument will make me update for shure!

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Yes Fazioli - I've been waiting for years, it's hopefully closer now than the first time I mentioned it.

Best wishes,

Stig

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Yes , FAZIOLI indeed! Played one over 33 years ago and loved the experience. So even in tone and exceptional regulation. The FAZIOLI is a gem!

Warmest regards,

Chris

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A Fazioli,  and a Yamaha CFX, and perhaps some more uprights?  That would be awesome!

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walkman2011 wrote:

A Fazioli,  and a Yamaha CFX, and perhaps some more uprights?  That would be awesome!

Yeah same thoughts here!

I always thought that faz's and Bosis sound very similar, so would personally be more interested in a CFX/uprights for versatility... but wouldn't turn up my nose on any of these options

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daniel_r328 wrote:
walkman2011 wrote:

A Fazioli,  and a Yamaha CFX, and perhaps some more uprights?  That would be awesome!

Yeah same thoughts here!

I always thought that faz's and Bosis sound very similar, so would personally be more interested in a CFX/uprights for versatility... but wouldn't turn up my nose on any of these options

290 Imperial FTW. Might be too hard for the engine though.

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Any of the mentioned would be great. I wish we could have one soon.

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Besides exact* models of existing Pianos (eg. Fazioli) coming so close that the original manufactor accepts it as his, there is a different angel to wish for.
PREPARING such a copy. Or a model of its own: "Prepared Piano".

* keeping in mind that none of those pianos are alike, but differ in nuances that are more or less audible right out of the factory.
In real life, these pianos will undergo manipulations to achive a certain behaviour adaptet to the type of music that the pianist  will perform at a given location and event. Pianoteq allows to copy this "tuning" as well. Depending on the Software level, we have all the possibilities to make such changes as well. And this is not restricted by the "boundaries" a tuner would face by the specific properties of the given piano in front of him.  We have access to so much parameters that we can literally build a new piano. in so far as we are able to this,  some more , some less.
Pianoteq is taking this in account, giving us presets to have "common" adaptions available for those like me, that are not good at tuning.
I am not able to build a copy of any given Model.

But I might be able to create something different. I might either copy the ideas of some creative person or comming up with ideas of my own - PREPARING a given model.
For some models, pianoteq already offers a preset of a prepared piano. Steinway D Prepared for instance.
But what kind of preparation was modeled? I cannot see this, and there are no options to pick from. Things like: pencils placed on top of strings, strings finger plugged from above and so on.
While the preparation applied will change the piano model into something different. there could be a model of its own "Prepared Piano" coming with presets of a wide variity of preparations to chose from. Syngular might be considered as a step in this direction, but while Syngular expands into realms broader than piano, this "prepared Piano" model should work within the boundaries of a piano.
There are already wishes in the forum for bolts of different materials to put between strings or a mandoline rail. So the wish for a piano that cannot only be tuned, but prepared is present within the user community.

What do think? Should we wish for a Prepared Piano Model of its own kind?

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Kaiser Wilhelm wrote:

Besides exact* models of existing Pianos (eg. Fazioli) coming so close that the original manufactor accepts it as his, there is a different angel to wish for.
PREPARING such a copy. Or a model of its own: "Prepared Piano".

* keeping in mind that none of those pianos are alike, but differ in nuances that are more or less audible right out of the factory.
In real life, these pianos will undergo manipulations to achive a certain behaviour adaptet to the type of music that the pianist  will perform at a given location and event. Pianoteq allows to copy this "tuning" as well. Depending on the Software level, we have all the possibilities to make such changes as well. And this is not restricted by the "boundaries" a tuner would face by the specific properties of the given piano in front of him.  We have access to so much parameters that we can literally build a new piano. in so far as we are able to this,  some more , some less.
Pianoteq is taking this in account, giving us presets to have "common" adaptions available for those like me, that are not good at tuning.
I am not able to build a copy of any given Model.

But I might be able to create something different. I might either copy the ideas of some creative person or comming up with ideas of my own - PREPARING a given model.
For some models, pianoteq already offers a preset of a prepared piano. Steinway D Prepared for instance.
But what kind of preparation was modeled? I cannot see this, and there are no options to pick from. Things like: pencils placed on top of strings, strings finger plugged from above and so on.
While the preparation applied will change the piano model into something different. there could be a model of its own "Prepared Piano" coming with presets of a wide variity of preparations to chose from. Syngular might be considered as a step in this direction, but while Syngular expands into realms broader than piano, this "prepared Piano" model should work within the boundaries of a piano.
There are already wishes in the forum for bolts of different materials to put between strings or a mandoline rail. So the wish for a piano that cannot only be tuned, but prepared is present within the user community.

What do think? Should we wish for a Prepared Piano Model of its own kind?


"What do think? Should we wish for a Prepared Piano Model of its own kind?"

Good idea -  it is always good to have many presets to choose from, depending on the music one is working on.

Steinway and Steingraeber have Prepared presets. They sound a bit like when my pupils wanted to surprise me ( 1982) and stuck thumbtacks on felt hammers in the classroom piano. It sounded like an out-of-tune piano in the 1930s……
I didn't know how to react...but they were very inventive. 12 years old. We had been listening to John Cages music . The prepared concept was pioneered by avant-garde composer John Cage in 1940

Best wishes,

Stig

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Pianoteqenthusiast wrote:

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Steinway and Steingraeber have Prepared presets. They sound a bit like when my pupils wanted to surprise me ( 1982) and stuck thumbtacks on felt hammers in the classroom piano. It sounded like an out-of-tune piano in the 1930s……

Rumor has it, that Mungo Jerry used this same preparation for the song "in the summertime".