Changing split point for Bass and Piano

Hi Stig,

thank you. But these presets are neither layered nor morphed. So the tips I got from the sources you mentionend don't apply.
And, having no Bass available within pianoteq (I have V9 Pro) I cannot build my own layered or morphed preset.
There is one exeption I found within the sources you mentionend that involves using a DAW. I may give this a try, yet it does complicate the whole setup.

But I am wise now anyhow, so thank you.

Best
Bernd

Oof, that is a complicated matter. Realistically, the answer is that there is no split point; they have simply created two different instruments using the same physical modeling tools. I understand that changing this situation would only be possible with the Pro version, as it's the only one that allows you to edit the model's behavior on a per-note basis, particularly within the Spectrum Profile and Impedance.

If you own the Pro version, under 'Note Edit' you can view the Spectrum profile for each individual note, which shifts drastically between Eb3 and E3 in those piano and bass patches. You will notice that every bass note, much like every piano note, features a distinct spectrum profile. I am not sure how the developers calculated this—perhaps via spectral analysis of bass samples.

The other key parameter is Impedance, which controls the soundboard resonance, which is significantly lower in the bass than in the piano. If you simply want to extend the bass range by a few notes, for example, you can copy and paste the spectrum profile from Eb3 onto E3 and above, and reduce the impedance. It is the opposite if you want more low piano notes, though copying and pasting the Spectrum profile is less effective there, given that piano notes are inherently more diverse than bass notes (Oh, and remember to turn up the Impedance, otherwise the piano will sound staccato).

Something very interesting you can do is morphing within the Spectrum Profile. If you deactivate the Spectrum Profile (with a double-click) for, say, the first piano notes (E3, F3, ...), Pianoteq will interpolate between the Spectrum Profile of the last bass note, Eb3, and the first piano note. This creates a morphing effect across as many notes as you want. It's a curious effect—a progressive transition between the two instruments instead of a split point.

This whole process might seem tedious compared to just moving a split point in a sampler, but there is something fascinating about it because we are tweaking the core synthesis of the sound itself. Best of luck!

rather I than a DAW I would recommend an advanced VST host program . I cannot recommend enough GIG performer, it is designed for ultra low latency , no safety buffer , can transition between layers seamlessly with continuous sound , allows multiple slip zones and has a predictive loading algorithm. I have tested various configs , gig performer , reaper , Logic Pro, ableton live and gig performer is the best by quite a good margin for live playing . An important number of live players use it now . If you use gig performer , a control surface midi controller and a top library such as pianoteq , VIlabs modern D or similar you have the equivalent abd convenience of a Nord keyboard in live situation.

That's interesting, but it's not free—neither is Logic, true, but for the same price you also get a DAW, which means you can even record your performances with it! Reaper isn't as “MIDI-friendly”; I don't know about Ableton.