Just wondering what is planned for a future release of Organteq.
Would two-way MIDI be coming at all?
Might it include the ability to modify the main screen back to a two-keyboard display for those of us with two manuals?
Any other suggestions... I'm just wishing / dreaming.
Just wondering what is planned for a future release of Organteq.
Would two-way MIDI be coming at all?
Might it include the ability to modify the main screen back to a two-keyboard display for those of us with two manuals?
Any other suggestions... I'm just wishing / dreaming.
I would also welcome further development of Organteq. I've solved the issue of the missing MIDI output for myself by using the JSON RPC interface. This works very well with the Streamdeck XL, for example (see my post about it here in the forum). Of course, a MIDI OUT port would be highly desirable for dedicated MIDI controllers.
At the top of my wish list is acoustic flexibility — a more natural integration of the physical models of the organ pipes into different virtual spaces.
I use Organteq in winter in a small church room to accompany hymns. The included impulse responses sound rather unnatural here. Conversely, if you reduce the reverb time and intensity significantly, Organteq sounds quite "sterile."
We'll see how soon we can expect an update.
Currently, Modartt is working on Airteq, a derivative of Organteq. I wish this development success, but I'm personally somewhat skeptical as to whether this product will receive widespread attention.
Just wondering what is planned for a future release of Organteq.
Would two-way MIDI be coming at all?
Might it include the ability to modify the main screen back to a two-keyboard display for those of us with two manuals?
Any other suggestions... I'm just wishing / dreaming.
Modartt are working all the time, there are 10 people in the team.We can’t know about their schedule, when updates can be done….which instrument a s o.
But they are reading our posts, and that is a big help for them, making life easier and can solve problems, when they know what we need. Our feedback is really important. So it is good you are writing the ”wishlist” here.
For us it's just a matter of being patient. They haven't forgotten about Organteq. After 13 years here, I'm sure of it.
Best wishes,
Stig
Thankyou Stig. I am fairly new to Organteq and am very pleased that it works so well for me. I also appreciate how much effort it takes for a small band of enthusiastic programmers to maintain momentum and to endeavour to "please" their clients. I think it is important for us to encourage them and have them know that they are enabling us to appreciate and create wonderful musical moments of beauty. Thank you team!
I use Organteq in winter in a small church room to accompany hymns. The included impulse responses sound rather unnatural here. Conversely, if you reduce the reverb time and intensity significantly, Organteq sounds quite "sterile."
Have you tried a different IR? There are lots of sites with really good IRs. I always had the feeling that Organteq sounds sterile compared with a sample set, but at the same time it does sound more realistic. The interactions between the sounds and the overall effect are almost exactly like a real organ, whereas a sample set somehow always sounds different from the same thing played on a real organ. So I think Organteq is closer to the real sound than many samples. But of course there is still potential for improvement.
Here's a short example: the same piece played once with Organteq, once on the real organ in my parish, and finally with the Friesach sample set. Organteq and the real organ sound very similar, and in a direct comparison the sample somehow doesn’t sound right. But that’s just my opinion — decide for yourself. Sorry for the small mistakes in the live recording; I hadn’t played there for a long time.
1. OrganTeq
https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...econds.mp3
2. Real Organ
https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?file=Preludio.mp3
3. Sampleset
https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...sachGO.mp3
Have you tried a different IR? There are lots of sites with really good IRs.
Although I have a fairly large IR collection, I haven't actually tried that yet. Perhaps I should ;-)
My point isn't about comparing sampled organs to physical modeling. In that respect, I clearly prefer Organteq to sampled organs.
My point is different: Many Organteq presets are embedded in huge reverb clouds to bring the sound of large cathedrals or churches into your living room.
And that works surprisingly well.
However, if I want to use Organteq in a specific environment, e.g. a hall, a chapel or even a church, then I want to integrate Organteq into the acoustics of that particular space so that it sounds as authentic as possible.
Ideally, I wouldn't need any IR reverb at all, just as a real organ doesn't have artificial reverb; its sound is shaped by the organ case, the room itself, its furnishings, and the people present.
Of course, this doesn't work exactly the same way as physically modeled organ sounds that are emitted via loudspeaker diaphragms and therefore interact with the room in a completely different way. But this is precisely where I see the development potential for Modartt.
Klangpost wrote:Have you tried a different IR? There are lots of sites with really good IRs.
Although I have a fairly large IR collection, I haven't actually tried that yet. Perhaps I should ;-)
My point isn't about comparing sampled organs to physical modeling. In that respect, I clearly prefer Organteq to sampled organs.
My point is different: Many Organteq presets are embedded in huge reverb clouds to bring the sound of large cathedrals or churches into your living room.
And that works surprisingly well.However, if I want to use Organteq in a specific environment, e.g. a hall, a chapel or even a church, then I want to integrate Organteq into the acoustics of that particular space so that it sounds as authentic as possible.
Ideally, I wouldn't need any IR reverb at all, just as a real organ doesn't have artificial reverb; its sound is shaped by the organ case, the room itself, its furnishings, and the people present.
Of course, this doesn't work exactly the same way as physically modeled organ sounds that are emitted via loudspeaker diaphragms and therefore interact with the room in a completely different way. But this is precisely where I see the development potential for Modartt.
I have searched and read and read in various writings about the problem and got no further than basically the same result as Pat (thank you Pat).
integrating Organteq into a church so it sounds truly authentic is very complicated because it requires forcing a single-point sound source (speakers) to replicate a distributed sound source (thousands of individual pipes) that has already been acoustically shaped by a different room (rooms) when modeling.
The challenge lies in overcoming the differences between physics-driven sound and modeled reproduction.
The sound is not same, coming from Organteq and loudspeakers in different church as compared to the immersive, vibrating sound of pipes.
The only one who can overcome this problem, if it is possible, is Dr. Roman Auvray, who has been working with Organteq from the beginning, together with the entire Modartt team - these 10 employees with their fantastic knowledge, together in a group, complement each other completely and are a master of their craft, they really know their stuff. They have always been responsive to user feedback and feature requests from this forum, which often drives the development path. So….
Just wait. Development is constantly moving forward.
Best wishes,
Stig