Topic by Cellomangler

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Topic: Pianoteq and Singular not recognized as an effect VST

Is it possible to make Pianoteq appear as both an instrument and effect VST to a DAW?  If not, can you make a separate download of Pianoteq that will be seen as an effect?  Note - long time user here and I paid for Syngular, but right now I can't route audio into Pianoteq in Ableton Live or into other applications that load VST effects.
If anyone has been successfully routing audio into Singular - particularly using Ableton Live - please chime in and explain how you are doing it.

Edit:  I'm able to route audio in Ableton Live using the cumbersome method of utilizing two tracks but there is another issue.  The Dry / Wet  control in Syngular needs to provide a fully dry input so I can hear my uneffected input signal.  Right now, it is outputting some sort of mix even at fully Dry.  And peplexing too - even with the volume of Pianoteq turned down, there is still a mix of both.

I see 3 improvements that would make Syngular much more useable:
1.  to be recognized as a VST effect as well as intrument.
2.  global setting for the Syngular audio input parameters (lock in position when changing Syngular presets).  (Turns out you can do this under the Freeze/snowflake icon - Other Parameters)
3.  make Singular's audio input mix control able to be set for 100% Dry as well as 100% Wet.

Last edited by Cellomangler (19-12-2025 02:04)
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Reply by brundlefly

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Re: Pianoteq and Singular not recognized as an effect VST

I can't comment on Syngular, and I don't use Ableton, but in Sonar, Pianoteq can be instantiated as a resonance effect simply by inserting it in a track's FX bin rather than in the Synth Rack, and the output is always 100% wet. The way to get a mix would be to use it as a Send FX on a bus (or aux track).

FWIW, this is the second post I've seen suggesting that Pianoteq is passing dry input signal along with the 100% wet resonance output. I believe this is a mistaken impression due to the fact that the resonance signal necessarily resproduces some level of all the frequenies present in the source, just at differing levels and decaying at different rates so the timbre is different and evolving. So - in some sense - the resonance signal includes the source signal because all its frequency components are present.