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Re: Pianoteq 9 When and What

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I ran a comparison in audacity of one midi file rendered with same preset and parameters with both Bösendorfer 280 VC and Kawai Shigaru EX  . I mix and render the version 8 rendition  after inversion and version 9 . The mix shows a non null audio file result

Out of interest, in terms of amplitude/energy, roughly what %age of the sound does the difference amount to? Obviously there isn't a 1-2-1 relationship between sound quality improvement and that measure, but I'm curious nonetheless

I will post a graph tonight when I am home . But the delta is not negligible. I’m some portions  the delta in energy is very visible which would to indicate more partials .

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Re: Pianoteq 9 When and What

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I ran a comparison in audacity of one midi file rendered with same preset and parameters with both Bösendorfer 280 VC and Kawai Shigaru EX  . I mix and render the version 8 rendition  after inversion and version 9 . The mix shows a non null audio file result

Out of interest, in terms of amplitude/energy, roughly what %age of the sound does the difference amount to? Obviously there isn't a 1-2-1 relationship between sound quality improvement and that measure, but I'm curious nonetheless

Hello Daniel ,  here is a screenshot of the same preset Shigaru Kawai Player  V8 vs V9 . Midi recorded is moments musical op 16 Rachmaninoff intro, lot of sustain pedal and half pedals , so lot of resonance.  Y axis in Audacity is the normalised amplitude of the signal so that it fits in a -1 + 1 range. You can clearly the difference particularly in the opening when the resonance plays a very important role.  Cheers

https://ibb.co/WW1HTBvZ

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You can clearly the difference particularly in the opening when the resonance plays a very important role.  Cheers

https://ibb.co/WW1HTBvZ

Oh wow, yes, it's visible to the naked eye without further processing. That matches my subjective impressions so far of a wetter voicing with more resonance, which sounds significantly more natural and spatial than when I boosted resonances in v8. Thank you so much for sharing!! I'm glad it's not the placebo effect

So far, I'm very, very impressed with v9. All pianos sound at least a touch better, but some have been transformed (The Blüthner blew my socks off!). The global hammer hardness is a much smarter way to parametrise this feature, experimentation is much smoother this way. And since the thunder pedal seems to actually extend the dynamic range (rather than just remapping velocities) it adds a lot of new expressions to the mix. What a slam dunk!

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daniel_r328 wrote:
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You can clearly the difference particularly in the opening when the resonance plays a very important role.  Cheers

https://ibb.co/WW1HTBvZ

Oh wow, yes, it's visible to the naked eye without further processing. That matches my subjective impressions so far of a wetter voicing with more resonance, which sounds significantly more natural and spatial than when I boosted resonances in v8. Thank you so much for sharing!! I'm glad it's not the placebo effect

So far, I'm very, very impressed with v9. All pianos sound at least a touch better, but some have been transformed (The Blüthner blew my socks off!). The global hammer hardness is a much smarter way to parametrise this feature, experimentation is much smoother this way. And since the thunder pedal seems to actually extend the dynamic range (rather than just remapping velocities) it adds a lot of new expressions to the mix. What a slam dunk!

You are welcome. I'm quite impressed too. Enjoy !