Topic: catching grace-note with pedal

Chopin Nocturne Opus 72 No. 1 in E Minor
https://musescore.com/classicman/scores...EE3aLr6VK2

Regarding the grace note in the right hand second bar, how well does the Kawai or Bosendorfer models handle it --  especially catching it with the pedal?

Note that I have a Kawai NV10S, and alas it does not 'catch' it with the pedal.

Re: catching grace-note with pedal

pdavidow wrote:

Chopin Nocturne Opus 72 No. 1 in E Minor
https://musescore.com/classicman/scores...EE3aLr6VK2

Regarding the grace note in the right hand second bar, how well does the Kawai or Bosendorfer models handle it --  especially catching it with the pedal?

Note that I have a Kawai NV10S, and alas it does not 'catch' it with the pedal.

To catch the note you may need to adjust the pedal curve in the velocity curve pane.

I had to.

Warmest regards,

Chris

Last edited by sigasa (08-06-2025 16:01)

Re: catching grace-note with pedal

pdavidow wrote:

Chopin Nocturne Opus 72 No. 1 in E Minor
https://musescore.com/classicman/scores...EE3aLr6VK2

Regarding the grace note in the right hand second bar, how well does the Kawai or Bosendorfer models handle it --  especially catching it with the pedal?

Note that I have a Kawai NV10S, and alas it does not 'catch' it with the pedal.

You have to use finger pedalling here with fingers 2 and 5 . Leave B pressed until the moment you play G with the pedal being pressed at this time . This will you enough to release the pedal in bar 1 and pedal it in bar 2 giving you enough time to clear bar 1 sound properly and capture the B as the key will be vibrating when you pedal down.

Re: catching grace-note with pedal

I also have a Kawai NV10S. Generally, Pianoteq handles pedalling and sympathetic resonance better than the Kawai. (I'm also frustrated that the Kawai won't let me silently retake notes and then change the pedal.)

But for this specific example: what Pianistically says.Then you have a technique that works on any instrument.

(Also consider that according to some people, grace notes in Chopin should be played in the classical style, i.e. on the beat not before. This generally makes pedalling cleaner and easier.)