I am a gigging church musician. It would be nice if Pianoteq models pads or strings so that we can layer with the piano. Will that ever happen? The board that I have (Yamaha DGX 670B) has a few pads and strings, but nothing exciting. What I do is assign Piantoeq's feed in the "Main" and let the pads of the keyboard come out in the "Layer."
I am a gigging church musician. It would be nice if Pianoteq models pads or strings so that we can layer with the piano. Will that ever happen? The board that I have (Yamaha DGX 670B) has a few pads and strings, but nothing exciting. What I do is assign Piantoeq's feed in the "Main" and let the pads of the keyboard come out in the "Layer."
Some of the folks layer Organteq with Pianoteq - that should work in a religious setting!
Of course you could combine any other VST with Pianoteq within a lightweight DAW like Reaper, or one of the MIDI performance programs.
You might also want to try a huge delay or reverb as pad - but this will take some experimentation.
Also you could try instrument layering in Pianoteq. You can extend the time sounds sustain in a number of ways, use modified piano sounds as backing pads.
I am a gigging church musician. It would be nice if Pianoteq models pads or strings so that we can layer with the piano. Will that ever happen? The board that I have (Yamaha DGX 670B) has a few pads and strings, but nothing exciting. What I do is assign Piantoeq's feed in the "Main" and let the pads of the keyboard come out in the "Layer."
For gigging musician it would be awesome to have some simple strings or pads, I agree! With the editing possibilities and FX already inside pianoteq the combinations would be infinite!
I also think that a simple pad or strings sound could be a nice addition, for some styles like smooth jazz pieces...
A model of the viola organista could fulfill the strings/pads request and give another keyboard instrument at the same time...
A model of the viola organista could fulfill the strings/pads request and give another keyboard instrument at the same time...
There's a free one for full NI Reaktor:
http://boscomac.free.fr/?p=viola_organista
NathanShirley wrote:A model of the viola organista could fulfill the strings/pads request and give another keyboard instrument at the same time...
There's a free one for full NI Reaktor:
http://boscomac.free.fr/?p=viola_organista
What a labor of love!
Key Fumbler wrote:NathanShirley wrote:A model of the viola organista could fulfill the strings/pads request and give another keyboard instrument at the same time...
There's a free one for full NI Reaktor:
http://boscomac.free.fr/?p=viola_organistaWhat a labor of love!
Yes, download them all. NI Reaktor user library is full of extra gems too.
Very interesting. Any idea if there are audio samples somewhere for those of us without Reaktor?
Very interesting. Any idea if there are audio samples somewhere for those of us without Reaktor?
EDIT: spoke too soon, sound examples here!
https://soundbytesmag.net/kritkal-reakt...bles-pt-2/
It's not something complex enough to warrant buying Reaktor (or more likely Komplete with it) if you didn't have it already. It's just a nice one to add if Reaktor is already in your collection.
There is plenty of sonic goodies that will warrant picking up Komplete though I suggest.
Taking advantage of the layering feature in Pianoteq (Standard and Pro version), one could create a pad-like patch for one layer and then add a piano of choice on a second layer. That’s what I did for the following example:
AUDIO: https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...Padded.mp3
I did this very quickly just prior to writing this post, so it’s a bit rough and unfinished, but I’m fairly confident that, were I to spend some more time on this, something that’s actually useful might result. But even in this embryonic state, I think this first effort gives a faint glimpse of what’s possible with just Pianoteq.
The pad patch was created starting from the Vintage Tines Mark II Basic Stereo preset of which I slowed the attack considerably, raised the Impedance to the highest value and lowered the Q Factor all the way down, also removed all Hammer Noise and Key Release Noise. And then added some Delay, Chorus and plenty of long Plate reverb. There’s also quite a bit of EQ — attenuating the lows and low mids — to avoid the sound becoming too boomy or muddy.
Here's the fxp of that pad: https://forum.modartt.com/file/bh4x8je8 (It's just the pad, without the added piano.)
This is obviously no replacement for a dedicated ‘pad engine’ and you can’t simulate any strings pads with the models that are currently available in Pianoteq, but it’s something and, who knows, a nebula like this dreamy, eerie Tines-derived pad sound might have some use in certain situations.
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Taking advantage of the layering feature in Pianoteq (Standard and Pro version), one could create a pad-like patch for one layer and then add a piano of choice on a second layer. That’s what I did for the following example:
AUDIO: https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...Padded.mp3
I did this very quickly just prior to writing this post, so it’s a bit rough and unfinished, but I’m fairly confident that, were I to spend some more time on this, something that’s actually useful might result. But even in this embryonic state, I think this first effort gives a faint glimpse of what’s possible with just Pianoteq.
The pad patch was created starting from the Vintage Tines Mark II Basic Stereo preset of which I slowed the attack considerably, raised the Impedance to the highest value and lowered the Q Factor all the way down, also removed all Hammer Noise and Key Release Noise. And then added some Delay, Chorus and plenty of long Plate reverb. There’s also quite a bit of EQ — attenuating the lows and low mids — to avoid the sound becoming too boomy or muddy.
Here's the fxp of that pad: https://forum.modartt.com/file/bh4x8je8 (It's just the pad, without the added piano.)This is obviously no replacement for a dedicated ‘pad engine’ and you can’t simulate any strings pads with the models that are currently available in Pianoteq, but it’s something and, who knows, a nebula like this dreamy, eerie Tines-derived pad sound might have some use in certain situations.
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It's beautiful -- more so than any of the meditation music I've ever heard!
BarbaraRB wrote:Key Fumbler wrote:There's a free one for full NI Reaktor:
http://boscomac.free.fr/?p=viola_organistaWhat a labor of love!
Yes, download them all. NI Reaktor user library is full of extra gems too.
I don't have Reaktor, and think I'll remain "monogamous" with Pianoteq. My acquisitive tendencies have been satisfied.
Key Fumbler wrote:BarbaraRB wrote:What a labor of love!
Yes, download them all. NI Reaktor user library is full of extra gems too.
I don't have Reaktor, and think I'll remain "monogamous" with Pianoteq. My acquisitive tendencies have been satisfied.
Ha ha, certainly a lot to be getting on with in Pianoteq Studio. A lifetime right there for some musician's requirements.
BarbaraRB wrote:Key Fumbler wrote:Yes, download them all. NI Reaktor user library is full of extra gems too.
I don't have Reaktor, and think I'll remain "monogamous" with Pianoteq. My acquisitive tendencies have been satisfied.
Ha ha, certainly a lot to be getting on with in Pianoteq Studio. A lifetime right there for some musician's requirements.
Really! It's insane!
Piet De Ridder,
I am having difficulty loading the MKII Pad.fxp into my Pianoteq 7.5.4, even though I own the instrument pack that contains the MkII Basic Stereo preset. Pianoteq keeps telling me that it can't read the fxp file and that it is the wrong version.
Just looking at the readable strings in the fxp file, I note the following line:
"Pianoteq NEXT 7.6.0/20220630"
and I wonder if this is causing the difficulty, since I am not sure that Pianoteq 7.6.0 has been generally released as yet.
I have been looking at some Youtube discussions of the Clavinet D6 and there are examples of "tuning" it to sound like a decent Spanish Guitar. This may enable one to use at least some sort of strings as a string pad for your Layering.
I haven't managed to find the correct settings to get the Spanish Guitar sound out of the Clavinet D6, but as it is referenced in the original promo film for the Clavinet, it can't be impossible to achieve with a bit of hackery.
Michael
Hi Michael,
Sorry, my mistake. I forgot that I have a version of Pianoteq installed which is used for beta-testing. (It’s exactly the same as the released version, except that it may change a little during a beta-test to incorporate whatever new feature or model that is being tested.) Didn’t know that fxp’s from that version can’t be loaded in the released version of the software. Ah, well.
Problem is though that I don’t have the regular version installed, so I can’t make an fxp that would be of use to you. Which is why I made four screenshots of the PTQ interface (with the MKII Pad.fxp loaded) instead, so that you can have a look at all the settings and maybe recreate the patch yourself. You can download a ZIP-file containing those four screenshots via this link.
Sorry again.
Piet
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Very interesting. Any idea if there are audio samples somewhere for those of us without Reaktor?
plenty of free samples on pianobook
there are also free synths such as surge and dexed