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Topic: Out of tune, tinny, metallic sound all pianos

Hi all. I’m new to Pianoteq.

With the default settings, all pianos sound like Wild West Saloon monsters – out of tune, tinny, metallic, heavy distortion on ff notes. Bass octaves horribly out of tune etc. etc. etc. etc.

I have spent an entire day now reading this forum and playing with all the settings but I can only improve things a little tiny bit. Each time something improves, something else sounds even worse. I am wondering about just giving up and not wasting more time and money.

Is there no standard setup guidance for this newbies ?

Just discovered this page is chopping my messge off half way through so there is more to say but I can't say it. Don't you just love that

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Re: Out of tune, tinny, metallic sound all pianos

yeq30 wrote:

Hi all. I’m new to Pianoteq.

With the default settings, all pianos sound like Wild West Saloon monsters – out of tune, tinny, metallic, heavy distortion on ff notes. Bass octaves horribly out of tune etc. etc. etc. etc.

I have spent an entire day now reading this forum and playing with all the settings but I can only improve things a little tiny bit. Each time something improves, something else sounds even worse. I am wondering about just giving up and not wasting more time and money.

Is there no standard setup guidance for this newbies ?

Just discovered this page is chopping my messge off half way through so there is more to say but I can't say it. Don't you just love that

You might want to take a look at this page which is more clear than the manual on how to build your own sound from scratch: https://www.modartt.com/pianoteq_workshops

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Re: Out of tune, tinny, metallic sound all pianos

Your description sounds beyond merely terrible. More like something has gone seriously wrong in set up, like pitch mod is stuck in the wrong position on a synth action keyboard!

Do you have a hammer action keyboard?

Did you like the demo tracks on the website?

If you play MIDI tracks in the app do those sound terrible to you too?

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Re: Out of tune, tinny, metallic sound all pianos

Sounds to me like unintentionally moving the "Condition" slider towards "Worn"

Pianoteq 7 Pro with all pianos

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Re: Out of tune, tinny, metallic sound all pianos

Urs Zimmermann wrote:

Sounds to me like unintentionally moving the "Condition" slider towards "Worn"

Yeah, that's what I thought at first - but even with Parameter Freeze it should revert to normal on restarting Pianoteq and selecting a new preset. So maybe there's something wrong with the output settings (sample rate or buffer)?

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Re: Out of tune, tinny, metallic sound all pianos

I think you should contact support! they were really fast and helpful to me ... and If you absolutely don't like it after all I think they will refund you!

I also have Kontakt-pianos and VSL  ... BUT I'm so satisfied with pianoteq! It is so small compared to a VSL piano and I'm wondering why I even bothered getting me the vienna one...

I'm also wondering about your cut-off post ... hm... I've seen very long comments here and I don't see like a restriction of characters here while I am typing...


good luck and I hope you can solve your problem!

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Re: Out of tune, tinny, metallic sound all pianos

yeq30 wrote:

Hi all. I’m new to Pianoteq.

With the default settings, all pianos sound like Wild West Saloon monsters – out of tune, tinny, metallic, heavy distortion on ff notes. Bass octaves horribly out of tune etc. etc. etc. etc.

Maybe you could tell us more about your setup :
OS, cpu, sound card, keyboard ?

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Re: Out of tune, tinny, metallic sound all pianos

Chopin87 wrote:
yeq30 wrote:

Hi all. I’m new to Pianoteq.

With the default settings, all pianos sound like Wild West Saloon monsters – out of tune, tinny, metallic, heavy distortion on ff notes. Bass octaves horribly out of tune etc. etc. etc. etc.

I have spent an entire day now reading this forum and playing with all the settings but I can only improve things a little tiny bit. Each time something improves, something else sounds even worse. I am wondering about just giving up and not wasting more time and money.

Is there no standard setup guidance for this newbies ?

Just discovered this page is chopping my messge off half way through so there is more to say but I can't say it. Don't you just love that

You might want to take a look at this page which is more clear than the manual on how to build your own sound from scratch: https://www.modartt.com/pianoteq_workshops

Thanks for this. It was very helpful. Turns out, the problem was Microsoft, my laptop was silently having a major Windows update and tantrum in c flat minor or something. When I turned it on the next morning. It wasted half my day "updating" and then everything worked fine.

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Re: Out of tune, tinny, metallic sound all pianos

Thanks to everyone who answered. Turns out the problem was Microsoft. My laptop was secretly having an update and tantrum in c flat minor or something. When I turned it on again the next day, it wasted half the day "updating" (!!) then everything worked Ok.

I'm really impressed with Pianoteq. I've got a lot to learn about shaping the piano sound I want though.

My system is:
Roland LX708
Windows 10 laptop 7-core, 3.5gHz, tons of RAM (CPU doesn't even break sweat no matter how many notes I press with the sustain pedal down.)
Headphones (always): DT900 Pro X (expensive and fantastic)
Not interested in loud speakers