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Thank you. If you are beautifully fragrant and make wine, then come have a look at the new forum.

Uhnn... What kind of freedon they hadn't in Pianoworld???

I've been a member of Pianoworld since 2005 when I got my Vogel 177 T. I met Frank and a bunch of members, and enjoyed the piano parties we gathered at. The parties, however, got fancier than my pocket and wallet could afford, like a trip to Europe during the 2009 recession was a bit much, and after that I felt I didn't fit in due to a number of reasons.

Anyway, I don't go there now. The last time I was there, it was the usual conversations. In the Pianist's corner, where the discussions about Classical music take place, there was the usual "I can't play Rach's 3rd Piano Concerto, or Beethoven's Pathetique, Clear the Room, I mean Claire de Lune, etc. The piano forum its self was all about the latest instruments and the usual oohs, and ahs over a grand or upright.

In there Pianist's Corner, there was one post that piqued my interest. There was a young member struggling with some fast runs on the piano. I think it was something he was working on by Glinka, which was probably well beyond his capabilities. There's nothing wrong with doing that. Heck, I think we all try that more than once and end up shelving pieces for a time then attack them, and kill them too, at another date.

Anyway, this kid asked for help and I offered. He showed the score which had some massive parallel thirds-type arpeggios, scales, and chromatic stuff all over with some in time and a lot not. He also posted a video link to a professional performance of the piece.

My first response was to work on it S L O W L Y, which is what my piano teachers would have said to me. In fact my advice was to work on it hands separately and together, but so slowly that each note takes more time than the actual value. It's a simple process, but it takes a lot of patience, but it really, really, does work.

He came back asking for advice again, and I repeated. Work on it slowly and you'll get it. He answered nastily, complaining that wasn't how it was supposed to go, and that's not how to work on it. My answer back was I know that's not the real tempo, but that's not the point of this. The point is to get the notes under the fingers and engrained in the brain. The real tempo comes later once the piece is steady. He got nasty with me again, and I pointedly said to him. "If you already know how to play it, why bother asking for help!"

This went back and forth a few times then a "friend" came in and defended him and also got nasty with me, and I reported both to the moderator. There was no reason to be nasty and rude. It's been about 5 years since I've been there, and I haven't visited since. It wasn't worth it.

As far as banning the good people, it must be the new moderators that came on board. I've moderated other forums and there's a give and take and level of respect needed on both sides. The problem is there are some forum moderators who take moderating to their heads and become oppressive, which I think is happening there now.

With all that said, I may check out the new forum if I have some time. I've been quite busy with lots of projects in my retirement.

Appreciate your perspective.

I experience it more as spirited banter. Yes there are strong opinions. If you don't like Pianoteq, you don't like it. I don't feel that discussions are shutdown. Yes there are people who will write something negative when Pianoteq is brought up. But there are others of us that appreciate the product.

The key is not to be offended. After all when opinions are involved who cares what people say. But we are all different, one persons pleasure is another's poison.

Still hoping at all turns out well.