More goodies from Modartt!

cool, had no idea 7.4 was available.  looking forward to it.

Modartt never stops and that's good for us. Pianoteq is really the most beautiful invention of the century, at least the one I use the most. This new version has a few other updates besides the felts.
What's next step ? A new grand piano ? I hope... And why not a prepared piano...
https://www.uvi.net/fr/pianos-keyboards...piano.html

Sweet.
I wonder if this amounts to the same as when we used the Celeste pedal to get the felt effect in 7.3 ?

I believe that it could be usefull to mention how the new felt features/parameters are working.

There are now 3 parameters to control the sound of the felt (Celeste Pedal)
This extends considerably the felted timbre range.
Beside the "Position" parameter available before version 7.4 there are now two new parameters:

. "Reverse the celeste pedal" - it simply inverses the value of the Position parameter.
Position 0 is maximum, Position 1.00 is minimum.

. "Felt Thickness" (from 0.00 to 1.00) - this parameter acts exactly as its name implies

Though only the main acoustic pianos have a dedicated Felt preset it is possible to assign the Celeste Pedal (including all three parameters) to all other acoustic pianos (historical) as well as to all other instruments like e. pianos, harp, cembalo, hand pan ...

As I really love the felted sound these new features (which in my view have been perfectly implemented) increase and mutiply for me considerably the possible timbre range.

There are quite a lot of dedicated great souding felted pianos sample library.
Now with Pianoteq we have an almost infinite number of felted pianos!
I find this really amazing.

Thanks a lot to Moddart for this

Thanks @teacue. I hope you don't mind I reposted your thoughts over at VI Control (https://vi-control.net/community/thread...st-4860582).

Lovely updates that will need time to be explored, at least for me! Much appreciated guys, it is wonderful to see how much you listen to any kind of feedback and apply it immediatly to the software!

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..Same here, love when these surprises pop up!

Great to see the additional felt parameters. Along those lines, it might be fun to model different materials.

Though probably of less interest, it could be interesting to model nearby strings being struck from the felt when the sustain pedal is depressed when a note is played. Of course, that could depend on the hammer strike point, humanization, and only for specific spots.

Beto-Music: Stevie is still around.

Thank you pianoteq, we asked for different felt presets and you delivered

??? You mean like a new demo- midi- song? Don't see it, I only have the old (not my style) blues piece. Do I miss something?

Well, let's allow Modartt team breath a little ;-)

They also need to breath, to eat, to drink, and to pee, like us.

Good to know. I probably was victim of some fake news.

It would quite nice to ask hin and those other blind pianists to try pianoteq: https://bestdigitalpianoguides.com/10-m...musicians/

My hearty thanks and congratulations to Philippe and everyone at Modartt for the new Pianoteq felt piano presets, as well as all the notable additional enhancements - such excellent vision and execution.

Also my sincere thanks are definitely owed to the felt piano aficionados who have taken time to join in here to talk about this type of piano treatment, past and present.  I'd love to keep up on how these new preset types are enjoyed - you have over time made me into a fan of the felt piano - and Pianoteq now delivers it to my door more vividly than I expected possible from one virtual instrument.

NY Steinway D - loving this even more than I thought I could - and the Classical Recording preset with the new Concert Hall reverb is quite the Champagne sound!

Although I don't personally require (yet) the visual aids like the red boxes, or the voice assistant, it's so very welcoming and I'm sure wasn't easy - it will make many new piano lovers deeply happy I hope.

Agree with everyone above, listening to users definitely does happen here and time and again, quietly things happen in the background until the next surprise is announced.  BTW I think those are indeed some nice ideas right here @David @theinvisibleman & @composerjk! - the good thoughts of the people who love Pianoteq regularly influence a portion of its ongoing development - and its definitely part of our collective fascination with this forum, to read those ideas and eventually to witness how they may be converted to physics with mathematics and glued into the engine

Overall on that note, Pianoteq has provided the very best experience I've had, of any music (or other) software. And a small team gets it done, beyond expectation so often. To the credit of Modartt, it remains firmly the case (for many years now, and of course there are many other music software titles and DAWs which I believe are truly sensational - but still I just am always most awe-struck by Modartt's progress and good engineering from such a solid basis in real physics).

This update, just for the felted sound alone will hopefully make so many inspired and satisfied - the possibilities, to achieve exactly the kind of sound we want, from defaults and realism to the dreamily over-produced, is just so awesome with all the controls at hand, plus the felt being built right into the newly improved celeste pedal model as it is, absolutely stunning. (Things like, just right-click setting celeste pedal to some % instead of fully depressed.. so useful and limitless in tandem with felt thickness and others to elicit the kind of results we want for any piece etc.)

Nice day for this - and it's so good to see the love here.

Hi Beto music,

I know you didn’t mean it but I found your reply a little patronising.

I politely asked that in the future modartt adds different soft materials to the felt preset in the future. I didn’t not scream about it nor did I ask for it to be done immediately.

I’m sure the company doesn’t need others to speak for it.

Cheers

Stevie Wonder is still alive

Possibly, somebody is going to post a video thoroughly explaining the new Humanize button that’s been added to Unison width, and precisely going over just how it jives with it?  Right now I’m kind of in the dark with it.

This short video available on the Modartt site by Jamie Blake describes it at around 1:00 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OgE5wGdH3M&t=4s

Well it's the same as everywhere in Pianoteq where a numerical value has a humanize parameter available...Each time a note is struck a pseudo-random number is generated and a value following the probability distribution specified is substituted to the fixed base value. The values in the center are more often generated and those at both tails less frequently. At least that is how I understand it. Humanize in that parameter is a bit of a misnomer because the Unison With is more a piano parameter than a pianist one (should be "randomize" I guess), but in the Felt piano context it could be called that since those pianos can be processed a lot.

I am a bit ambivalent about the "humanize", or more approprietaly "random" function. I don't see this as something that emulates what happens in a physical piano. Does Unison width or whatever parameter change every time a key is struck? IMHO, random parameters make more sense if they are applied across the keyboard range, making each key feel a bit different for any given parameter of the model.

I see. Good point. Probably for older, less well maintained pianos, the hammers have a certain lateral "slack" that make them hit slightly differently each time they are played.

personally, i'd like to see the Humanize feature on as many parameters possible.  of course it makes no physical sense to have string length changing according to some drastic probability distribution, but it could potentially be very cool.  could lead to some really interesting sounds.

The think about the "humanize" function is that if you play a note on a real piano 10 times you will get a slightly different sound every time. Unless it's a completely prestine, perfectly new high end grand that can reproduce the same sound every single time.

Putting that on the unison is a good idea, because that will create a slightly different timbre every time you hit a key. Maybe "realize" would be the better name, but I guess "humanize" is more clear as to what it does.