Topic: What microphones & what mic positions are the best for reduce humming?

Hum that comes from 300-800 range and from piano body itself.

Piano itself is such a rich instrument that it takes to tweak it very long to reduce its space a little bit for the mix
PS I don't want to engage EQ for that purpose right from the beginning

I don't know what in the world is DPA 4041 but it really helps to clean out the sound a bit

Last edited by Romariozen (02-05-2021 19:03)

Re: What microphones & what mic positions are the best for reduce humming?

Romariozen wrote:

Hum that comes from 300-800 range and from piano body itself.

Piano itself is such a rich instrument that it takes to tweak it very long to reduce its space a little bit for the mix
PS I don't want to engage EQ for that purpose right from the beginning

I don't know what in the world is DPA 4041 but it really helps to clean out the sound a bit

Hum?
I presume you actually meant bass?

Perhaps you should consider your room acoustics. If all the presets sound like that something wrong with the playback system.
Consider your loudspeaker positioning too.

If you have standard or Pro you can move the microphones around to your hearts content.

Compare the sound on some decent headphones.

If you want the piano to blend with pop mixes consider using one of the pop presets with mono sound or setting the width to a very narrow setting and reduce dynamics a little.

Re: What microphones & what mic positions are the best for reduce humming?

Key Fumbler wrote:
Romariozen wrote:

Hum that comes from 300-800 range and from piano body itself.

Piano itself is such a rich instrument that it takes to tweak it very long to reduce its space a little bit for the mix
PS I don't want to engage EQ for that purpose right from the beginning

I don't know what in the world is DPA 4041 but it really helps to clean out the sound a bit

Hum?
I presume you actually meant bass?

Perhaps you should consider your room acoustics. If all the presets sound like that something wrong with the playback system.
Consider your loudspeaker positioning too.

If you have standard or Pro you can move the microphones around to your hearts content.

Compare the sound on some decent headphones.

If you want the piano to blend with pop mixes consider using one of the pop presets with mono sound or setting the width to a very narrow setting and reduce dynamics a little.

Humming I mean the resonances of piano's body and boxiness that comes from 300-800 Hz. I listen on the headphones.

Mono ing  is a good way but I don't like the sound, so I try to find some other ways before I engage EQ and closing stereo panorama

Last edited by Romariozen (02-05-2021 21:53)

Re: What microphones & what mic positions are the best for reduce humming?

DPA 4041 is a very expensive microphone: https://www.dpamicrophones.com/pencil/4...microphone

Re: What microphones & what mic positions are the best for reduce humming?

Romariozen wrote:
Key Fumbler wrote:
Romariozen wrote:

Hum that comes from 300-800 range and from piano body itself.

Piano itself is such a rich instrument that it takes to tweak it very long to reduce its space a little bit for the mix
PS I don't want to engage EQ for that purpose right from the beginning

I don't know what in the world is DPA 4041 but it really helps to clean out the sound a bit

Hum?
I presume you actually meant bass?

Perhaps you should consider your room acoustics. If all the presets sound like that something wrong with the playback system.
Consider your loudspeaker positioning too.

If you have standard or Pro you can move the microphones around to your hearts content.

Compare the sound on some decent headphones.

If you want the piano to blend with pop mixes consider using one of the pop presets with mono sound or setting the width to a very narrow setting and reduce dynamics a little.

Humming I mean the resonances of piano's body and boxiness that comes from 300-800 Hz. I listen on the headphones.

Mono ing  is a good way but I don't like the sound, so I try to find some other ways before I engage EQ and closing stereo panorama

Your premise begs other questions.
Which of the pianos are you finding too resonant, too boxy?;  I could understand if you were trying to use the lovely characterful Pleyel or the Errard for instance for a crisp modern pop sound instead of say the YC5 or the K.

Do you find this going through every preset?

Which version of Pianoteq are you using?

What's the frame of reference?
Classical, Pop/Rock, real piano - what type, in what size of room?

Perhaps you want to use Cardioid microphones instead of the omnidirectional types, the latter of which captures more ambient sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V9qidXgTdw
https://homestudioexpert.com/omnidirect...ar_Pattern

Re: What microphones & what mic positions are the best for reduce humming?

Key Fumbler wrote:
Romariozen wrote:
Key Fumbler wrote:

Hum?
I presume you actually meant bass?

Perhaps you should consider your room acoustics. If all the presets sound like that something wrong with the playback system.
Consider your loudspeaker positioning too.

If you have standard or Pro you can move the microphones around to your hearts content.

Compare the sound on some decent headphones.

If you want the piano to blend with pop mixes consider using one of the pop presets with mono sound or setting the width to a very narrow setting and reduce dynamics a little.

Humming I mean the resonances of piano's body and boxiness that comes from 300-800 Hz. I listen on the headphones.

Mono ing  is a good way but I don't like the sound, so I try to find some other ways before I engage EQ and closing stereo panorama

Your premise begs other questions.
Which of the pianos are you finding too resonant, too boxy?;  I could understand if you were trying to use the lovely characterful Pleyel or the Errard for instance for a crisp modern pop sound instead of say the YC5 or the K.

Do you find this going through every preset?

Which version of Pianoteq are you using?

What's the frame of reference?
Classical, Pop/Rock, real piano - what type, in what size of room?

Perhaps you want to use Cardioid microphones instead of the omnidirectional types, the latter of which captures more ambient sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V9qidXgTdw
https://homestudioexpert.com/omnidirect...ar_Pattern

The video is what I wanted, thanks