Topic: Where does the "stage" version put the binaural listener?

In the "Stage" version there are no settings to adjust the mic positioning and similar parameters of the "recording modes".

Does anybody know where the Stage version puts the listener in the "Binaural" recording mode? I guess it is in the position of the player, but I can't see any confirmation in the manual.

Re: Where does the "stage" version put the binaural listener?

alphabetter wrote:

In the "Stage" version there are no settings to adjust the mic positioning and similar parameters of the "recording modes".

Does anybody know where the Stage version puts the listener in the "Binaural" recording mode? I guess it is in the position of the player, but I can't see any confirmation in the manual.

Binaural is literally the microphone perspective of the human head.
See:
http://www.linkwitzlab.com/Recording/Re...ng-101.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaural_recording

Re: Where does the "stage" version put the binaural listener?

I sampled a couple of instruments in the Pro version and it's always a player position, regardless of the micing. Of course player position for the harp for example is different from a piano...

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Gilles wrote:

I sampled a couple of instruments in the Pro version and it's always a player position, regardless of the micing. Of course player position for the harp for example is different from a piano...

Good point, I neglected to mention that in my first post.

You can move the virtual head model where you like in Standard and Pro. It starts out as player's perspective.

The binaural perspective is always the players perspective in Pianoteq.
A binaural perspective could always be from an audience perspective of course (binaural simply meaning the recording most closely resembling the perspective of the human ear), but in this case it starts out as a variant of the player's perspective, so that's what you will always get in Stage.

Last edited by Key Fumbler (16-04-2021 19:41)

Re: Where does the "stage" version put the binaural listener?

In the majority of the presets the binaural position is the position of the player, with however a very high height for a player of an average size ( height of the ears to 1m50 of the ground seems to me too high ). In some presets the binaural position is to the right of the piano (also at a very high height for a standing listener, 2 meters ). Conclusion, the employees of modartt are probably very tall men

Re: Where does the "stage" version put the binaural listener?

Key Fumbler wrote:
Gilles wrote:

I sampled a couple of instruments in the Pro version and it's always a player position, regardless of the micing. Of course player position for the harp for example is different from a piano...

Good point, I neglected to mention that in my first post.


Yes indeed - my question was "where was the head". Thanks.

Yves Th wrote:

however a very high height for a player of an average size ( height of the ears to 1m50 of the ground seems to me too high )

I am about that height, but not when sitting at the piano!

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Yves Th wrote:

however a very high height for a player of an average size ( height of the ears to 1m50 of the ground seems to me too high )

I am about that height, but not when sitting at the piano!

Yes. I haven't measured my eye height when seated but roughly I would guess 1.2 metres considering these calculations:
https://www.irwinseating.com/resources/...%20screen.
That 44" for eye height would be a more relaxed (lower) theatre seat position, so maybe take that to around 48" seated bolt upright at a piano stool?
About 1.2-1.22 metres eye height male adult?

https://www.firstinarchitecture.co.uk/m...n-sitting/

This one also suggesting average eye height for a male seated 1.220 metres.

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And if your model is Glenn Gould or Brad Mehldau the ears height can be a few centimeters above the keyboard...
Or Michel Petrucciani...

Last edited by YvesTh (17-04-2021 08:04)

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YvesTh wrote:

In the majority of the presets the binaural position is the position of the player, with however a very high height for a player of an average size ( height of the ears to 1m50 of the ground seems to me too high ). In some presets the binaural position is to the right of the piano (also at a very high height for a standing listener, 2 meters ). Conclusion, the employees of modartt are probably very tall men

30cm over the average man at sitting height. That suggests to me likely to be at least 7 feet tall!.
Way taller than poor wee Rachmaninoff!   

https://www.classicfm.com/discover-musi...r-heights/

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l7eXx_8DHY
Title translation (approximate): "he was playing piano standing"

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Philippe Guillaume wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l7eXx_8DHY
Title translation (approximate): "he was playing piano standing"

Ha ha, nice answer. You get a standing ovation for the pianos anyway!

I enjoyed the track too.

Last edited by Key Fumbler (17-04-2021 12:37)

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Philippe Guillaume wrote:

Title translation (approximate): "he was playing piano standing"

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Yes, like this guy: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2006/...opandrock1

He sometimes also played with his feet...

Last edited by Gilles (18-04-2021 16:17)

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Philippe Guillaume wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l7eXx_8DHY
Title translation (approximate): "he was playing piano standing"

Ref:  FRANCE GALL ...Oh my!  How refreshing ... not only beautiful in every way ... but voice trem:  2% vibrato and 40% amplitude mod .. how refreshing!

Lanny

Last edited by LTECpiano (17-04-2021 15:15)

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LTECpiano wrote:
Philippe Guillaume wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l7eXx_8DHY
Title translation (approximate): "he was playing piano standing"

Ref:  FRANCE GALL ...Oh my!  How refreshing ... not only beautiful in every way ... but voice trem:  2% vibrato and 40% amplitude mod .. how refreshing!

Lanny

FRANCE GALL, oui!  We played a cover of "Ella, elle l'a" as house band for a Christmas party at my old science lab job. Good memories. And playing keyboards standing (specially while working the pedal)  is very bad for the back!

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