Topic: Pianoteq 7 is time for iPad apps request

This new Pianoteq 7 is really amazing. I think it is time for Modartt to make Pianoteq 7 available on iPad Pro or Air.

   I sometimes don't bring my 2014 MacBook Pro 15 inch to church for practice and also many other places to record a song. I have to use whatever keyboard available and to be honest, it did not sounds good as Pianoteq. Also I don't like the Piano sounds of any other iPad apps available.

I think many of us love the iPad apps for future update as we know many people own iPads.

Thank you very much,

Best regards

Last edited by dulistan heman (13-01-2021 02:21)
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I absolutely agree !!! Waiting me too. Cmon Modartt!

dulistan heman wrote:

This new Pianoteq 7 is really amazing. I think it is time for Modartt to make Pianoteq 7 available on iPad Pro or Air.

   I sometimes don't bring my 2014 MacBook Pro 15 inch to church for practice and also many other places to record a song. I have to use whatever keyboard available and to be honest, it did not sounds good as Pianoteq. Also I don't like the Piano sounds of any other iPad apps available.

I think many of us love the iPad apps for future update as we know many people own iPads.

Thank you very much,

Best regards

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Presumably this version being more CPU intensive the same quality could not be replicated on the mobile processor in the iPad?

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Key Fumbler wrote:

Presumably this version being more CPU intensive the same quality could not be replicated on the mobile processor in the iPad?

iOS hardware is more than capable of running Pianoteq and has been powerful enough for several generations. In fact, I'd even wager the latest iOS devices can run Pianoteq better than a lot of regular computer systems.

For example, my old iPhone 7 has approx. the same benchmark scores as as my 2013 MacBook Air with an i5-5250U mobile processor; and that MacBook Air runs Pianoteq perfectly smooth with the default out-of-the-box settings.

Last edited by Groove On (17-01-2021 18:22)

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Groove On wrote:
Key Fumbler wrote:

Presumably this version being more CPU intensive the same quality could not be replicated on the mobile processor in the iPad?

iOS hardware is more than capable of running Pianoteq and has been powerful enough for several generations. In fact, I'd even wager the latest iOS devices can run Pianoteq better than a lot of regular computer systems.

For example, my old iPhone 7 has approx. the same benchmark scores as as my 2013 MacBook Air with an i5-5250U mobile processor; and that MacBook Air runs Pianoteq perfectly smooth with the default out-of-the-box settings.


The current iPad Pro is powerful but there is no piano vst that has good sounds like Pianoteq has. If Modartt developer also make the apps available on iPad IOS, that would be interesting and I think I will bring my iPad anywhere I go, record song using Garage band or Cubasis and get the Pianoteq sounds right out the box.

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dulistan heman wrote:
Groove On wrote:
Key Fumbler wrote:

Presumably this version being more CPU intensive the same quality could not be replicated on the mobile processor in the iPad?

iOS hardware is more than capable of running Pianoteq and has been powerful enough for several generations. In fact, I'd even wager the latest iOS devices can run Pianoteq better than a lot of regular computer systems.

For example, my old iPhone 7 has approx. the same benchmark scores as as my 2013 MacBook Air with an i5-5250U mobile processor; and that MacBook Air runs Pianoteq perfectly smooth with the default out-of-the-box settings.


The current iPad Pro is powerful but there is no piano vst that has good sounds like Pianoteq has. If Modartt developer also make the apps available on iPad IOS, that would be interesting and I think I will bring my iPad anywhere I go, record song using Garage band or Cubasis and get the Pianoteq sounds right out the box.

https://forum.audiob.us/uploads/editor/...a7wzt.jpeg

Pianoteq Pro Studio with Bösendorfer, Shigeru Kawai and Organteq

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I'd be curious: Pianoteq runs just fine on a Mid 2012 Macbook Air with a 1.8ghz i5.

Would my gen 6'th iPad (A10 cpu) deliver similar performance. Or will an upgrade be in order. (Anybody from Modartt want to comment :-) )?

Also how do you run midi in, an audio interface out and charge an iPad with a lightning connector, all at once? Again should I upgrade to a device with USB-C?

Last edited by Irmin (13-04-2021 07:49)

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modartt is making an ios version

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Modartt it's serious about IOS versions. Indeed they even redesigned their logos:

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And Organteq will get IOS too:

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Last edited by Beto-Music (14-04-2021 17:42)

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Beto-Music wrote:

Modartt it's serious about IOS versions. Indeed they even redesigned their logos:

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And Organteq will get IOS too:

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I can hear the pitter-patter of hundreds of angry little Apple lawyer feet headed your way

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Irmin wrote:

I'd be curious: Pianoteq runs just fine on a Mid 2012 Macbook Air with a 1.8ghz i5.

Would my gen 6'th iPad (A10 cpu) deliver similar performance. Or will an upgrade be in order. (Anybody from Modartt want to comment :-) )?

Also how do you run midi in, an audio interface out and charge an iPad with a lightning connector, all at once? Again should I upgrade to a device with USB-C?

Hi. For the MIDI in I can answer: You will need a "Lightning to USB 3 camera"-adaptor - this allows you to have a USB port in/out while still be able to charge via it's Lightning port.
(Even it says USB 3 it is backward compatible).
(EDIT) You can add an (preferable active) MIDI hub for further MIDI connections like keyboard, controllers, pedals etc.)

you can also use a Bluetooth MIDI adaptor.. Expect a TINY input lag here.
Not everyone notice the lag... I am one of those who does though

About the iPad CPU power and RAM, I think it's far to early to say anything about as we don't know the needed specs.
Let's hope Pianoteq are just weeks or at least only a few months away to bring this out

A few whishes for the iPad model:
Please add a good and useful velocity curve (I haven't seen any on the existing piano apps).
and... PLEEASE add the tiny" mistune" function as well (sorry, I don't know the right word for this technique).

Regards
Chris

Last edited by ChokDK (16-04-2021 15:42)

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With the recent release of Dorico for iPad (yesterday), it strikes me how badly we need PianoTeq on iPad...

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MarcLarcher wrote:

With the recent release of Dorico for iPad (yesterday), it strikes me how badly we need PianoTeq on iPad...

And Sibelius for iPad today.

Three’s the charm— you’re up, Modartt…

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tfort wrote:
MarcLarcher wrote:

With the recent release of Dorico for iPad (yesterday), it strikes me how badly we need PianoTeq on iPad...

And Sibelius for iPad today.

Three’s the charm— you’re up, Modartt…

I also want it badly, but the MIDI Archiving feature would be mandatory.

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I willingly would support this. Pianoteq, even Organteq should be available for iOS / iPad OS for a direct and interactive app experience.  I'm still waiting for this as it's a tool I'd need for work on locations and as an accessible tool set as a blind pianist and organist. So, come on Modartt, I love you guys more than you ever know, let's get Pianoteq and Organteq  IOS ready. I can't see why it can't be achieved when both current versions are ARM supported. So, let's be daring and break some barriers.

For those of us who own Pro and Stage editions, it would be a help if the software was sold that we could receive either some discount, or use our licenses to register the ipad / ios versions as part of our license use count.

Blind Music Producer, Composer, pianist and Church Organist. Accessibility development specialist for MacOS. Developing a solution for blind organists to have an accessible digital organ solution.

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I check periodically to see if Pianoteq can be utilized via the iPad.

I get instruction with online courseware (which I access via iPadMini) and it would be so convenient to be able to put the Ipad on my music stand, load pianoteq, and access my courseware via the iPad with Pianoteq running in the background.

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ddascher wrote:

I check periodically to see if Pianoteq can be utilized via the iPad.

I get instruction with online courseware (which I access via iPadMini) and it would be so convenient to be able to put the Ipad on my music stand, load pianoteq, and access my courseware via the iPad with Pianoteq running in the background.

Definitely! Perhaps we need more users to write in here to show more demand, or mail the Modartt Team more. Perhaps with more unique users to request / demand it.
Maybe you know a way, in which this can be done

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Unfortunately, I am afraid the present user base (demanding it) is not enough.

It has to come from potential new users being attracted to being able to install on the iPad.

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ddascher wrote:

Unfortunately, I am afraid the present user base (demanding it) is not enough.

It has to come from potential new users being attracted to being able to install on the iPad.

Imagine a big and well known dare I say Influencer would ask their guests to ask Modartt to create an iPad version for it as they are a potential customer.
What do you think of this plan? It would be advertise for Modartt, and at the same time it would increase demand on what we want.

Last edited by Defenz0r (18-09-2021 19:09)

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Defenz0r wrote:
ddascher wrote:

Unfortunately, I am afraid the present user base (demanding it) is not enough.

It has to come from potential new users being attracted to being able to install on the iPad.

Imagine a big and well known dare I say Influencer would ask their guests to ask Modartt to create an iPad version for it as they are a potential customer.
What do you think of this plan? It would be advertise for Modartt, and at the same time it would increase demand on what we want.

From the FAQ

Will there be a version for the iPad?
Currently, we cannot tell when/if we will release a version for the iPad.

https://www.modartt.com/faq :-(  Please please :-)

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I'd buy ios version immediately!

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Gepetto1000 wrote:

I'd buy ios version immediately!


I suspect that Modartt has a working iOS version. The challenge isn't technical. I think it is the financials. Between iPad apps generally being cheaper then Desktop Apps and also the 30% Apple tax maybe it is difficult to come up with a working business case?

Any input from Modartt ?

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Why do musicians have such an obsession with iOS?  How about an Android version first?  That gives you much more choices for running it on different hardware :-)

(Although Beto-Music's logos are very cute!)

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hanysz wrote:

Why do musicians have such an obsession with iOS?  How about an Android version first?  That gives you much more choices for running it on different hardware :-)

(Although Beto-Music's logos are very cute!)

Audio on Android is just not at the same level as ios unfortunately. The audio pipeline is not optimized for low latency stable audio on most devices. The many versions of Android on hundreds of different devices doesn't help either.

Also audio tooling on ios is light years ahead of Android. In terms of plug-ins, DAWs, standards such as AUv3 etc etc

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hanysz wrote:

Why do musicians have such an obsession with iOS?  How about an Android version first?  That gives you much more choices for running it on different hardware :-)

(Although Beto-Music's logos are very cute!)

Because, as Richard Stallman said, Steve Jobs made cool jails out of computers. iPads are expensive, you can't run whatever you want, you can't add a microSD card, you don't have standard connectors, but still people perceive them as great devices.

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Irmin wrote:

Audio on Android is just not at the same level as ios unfortunately. The audio pipeline is not optimized for low latency stable audio on most devices.

Interesting.  I wasn't aware that iOS had done that type of optimisation.

marcos daniel wrote:

Because, as Richard Stallman said, Steve Jobs made cool jails out of computers. iPads are expensive, you can't run whatever you want, you can't add a microSD card, you don't have standard connectors, but still people perceive them as great devices.

I wasn't aware of that quote, but yes, it sums up what's puzzling me here.

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hanysz wrote:
Irmin wrote:

Audio on Android is just not at the same level as ios unfortunately. The audio pipeline is not optimized for low latency stable audio on most devices.

Interesting.  I wasn't aware that iOS had done that type of optimisation.

marcos daniel wrote:

Because, as Richard Stallman said, Steve Jobs made cool jails out of computers. iPads are expensive, you can't run whatever you want, you can't add a microSD card, you don't have standard connectors, but still people perceive them as great devices.

I wasn't aware of that quote, but yes, it sums up what's puzzling me here.

Have you seen my other post? It could actually be possible *NOW* to run PTQ on Android. You have to root your device (yes, Google too has learned from Steve, even though they are less aggressive in that regard), and obviously depending on the hw capability of your phone/tablet it may be a good or bad experience. Note that these apps run Linux *natively* on the device, not in an emulation mode, and as such there should be no overhead. Since PTQ runs well on a Raspberry PI, I expect to run at least decently on most phones/tablets.

See https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?id=8910 if you haven't already

One day I'll probably try it myself, but perhaps today some of you could do it?

Where do I find a list of all posts I upvoted? :(

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I had not read your post, it is very interesting!
Anyway I have a very low end android phone, I don't have storage enough to install Linux, if I could get my hands on a higher end phone I would give a try... Anyway I don't believe it would be easy.
BTW, sadly, Sony has dropped its linux support, it was a very interesting project.

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ddascher wrote:

Unfortunately, I am afraid the present user base (demanding it) is not enough.

It has to come from potential new users being attracted to being able to install on the iPad.

My account has been created 2 years ago and, still, I don’t own PianoTeq.
I am just waiting for PianoTeq to arrive on iOS

Last edited by Paulo164 (18-11-2021 09:42)

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Paulo164 wrote:
ddascher wrote:

Unfortunately, I am afraid the present user base (demanding it) is not enough.

It has to come from potential new users being attracted to being able to install on the iPad.

My account has been created 2 years ago and, still, I don’t own PianoTeq.
I am just waiting for PianoTeq to arrive on iOS

I have pianoteq std, and I'll buy an ios version  the moment it is released. I want to run it in AUM on the iPad, feeding into a reverb such as fabfilter pro-r. And then run forscore to display sheet music.

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Irmin wrote:
Paulo164 wrote:
ddascher wrote:

Unfortunately, I am afraid the present user base (demanding it) is not enough.

It has to come from potential new users being attracted to being able to install on the iPad.

My account has been created 2 years ago and, still, I don’t own PianoTeq.
I am just waiting for PianoTeq to arrive on iOS

I have pianoteq std, and I'll buy an ios version  the moment it is released. I want to run it in AUM on the iPad, feeding into a reverb such as fabfilter pro-r. And then run forscore to display sheet music.

This sounds beautiful to my ears... 

Re: Pianoteq 7 is time for iPad apps request

Modartt confirmed that they are indeed working on an iOS version of Pianoteq.  Those who are subscribed to their news letter received this on Oct. 19th.

Forthcoming products

We are working hard on the development of forthcoming products and upgrades, such as a Pianoteq version for iOS, Organteq 2, and new exciting instrument models.

All to be announced later when available. Ensure to keep subscribing to our newsletter to not miss out anything.

Cheers

Sordess
Author of PTQ Client Webapp: (https://github.com/robert-rc2i/ptq-client-webapp)
Kawai CA79

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sordess wrote:

Modartt confirmed that they are indeed working on an iOS version of Pianoteq.  Those who are subscribed to their news letter received this on Oct. 19th.

Forthcoming products

We are working hard on the development of forthcoming products and upgrades, such as a Pianoteq version for iOS, Organteq 2, and new exciting instrument models.

All to be announced later when available. Ensure to keep subscribing to our newsletter to not miss out anything.

Cheers

I've been running Pianoteq natively on Linux for many years now.  I have moved my sheet music to an Android Tablet.   I tried an iPad previously for a few days before I bought a Samsung S5e.   The iPad had a lot of negatives.   It's entirely incompatible with Linux when it comes to file transfer, and in fact the iPad at that time did not even have a file manager.   That issue may have been corrected.  I would buy an iPad Pro with the M1 chip if Pianoteq ran natively on it.  I would like to be able to run Pianoteq on the same device that displays my sheet music.   If an Android tablet could do it, that would be great.   From what I hear the M1 runs circles around everything else.   Is it possible to run Pianoteq on an Android tablet?   If not, I guess we are stuck with Apple.   That said, this guy just bought a bunch of new Apple products and loves them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWuWoeg7oVM

Last edited by GRB (23-04-2022 13:55)
Pianoteq Pro 7.x - Kubuntu Linux 19.10 - Plasma Desktop - Hamburg Steinway

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Defenz0r wrote:
tfort wrote:
MarcLarcher wrote:

With the recent release of Dorico for iPad (yesterday), it strikes me how badly we need PianoTeq on iPad...

And Sibelius for iPad today.

Three’s the charm— you’re up, Modartt…

I also want it badly, but the MIDI Archiving feature would be mandatory.

That is already built into via iCloud, e.g. Dorico files are shared by the iOS devices and your desktop, including Windows PCs, and backed up to the cloud.

No need to reinvent the wheel.