When is the next version?

IF you still feel the C3 model a bit artificial in timbre, tone, for some notes, I understand.

But...  Have you practice on the YC5 add-on???  It sound pretty natural along all key range.

Wow, how can I have overlooked the C5 for so long? It really does sound very good! In fact I just bought it!

Granted, it still isn't that "dirty quirky" upright sound I am looking for, but this new model sounds GREAT for a clean jazz sound! This is my favorite preset now!

I know that I can always count on the next upgrade to be SPECTACULAR! Please, Modatt, heed our calls, and make as an upright!

Also check out this 1930s upright 'Gaveau de Pepe Lepeut' on the fxp. page and maybe even Thelonius Monks piano fxp. there too!

Where can I find the YC5 add-on?

If I adjust the base and treble settings on my speakers, it makes a difference to the sound pianos and changes their character. More base gives a lovely fuller sound and somehow increases realism in the overall sound. The vibration from the speakers even sometimes makes you feel like there are actual strings being played.

Maybe Pianoteq could add separate volume, base and treble controls that is global to all the pianos and not saved as an adjustment with the individual pianos.

(Be sure to try out the well-tempered temperament with the YC5 Close mic and experiment with various Piano size settings. But not for an upright sound--a big, clean grand.)

I've been ignoring the Erard 1922 far too long - tried it last night.

It's the sound I've been looking for (at least almost).  The very high treble may be a bit thin in a couple of spots ((Eb8), but this probably accurately portrays the real thing.

But the bass and mid range really suits me well.

I use four mics:  one on each side of the pianist at head level, one over the middle of the soundboard just under the lid, and another on the short right side at the same height and the third.  I find that the one centered over the soundboard really adds to the bass clarity and strength.

I tried the YC5, and found the lower couple of octaves a bit light (a 5'-8" Yamaha perhaps? - I had one for twenty-odd years and have witnessed the longitudinal wave problem in the bass).

Of course we must always keep in mind that what we hear depends first and foremost on what we are using to produce the sounds (soundcard and speaker system).

Glenn

Please release only if the essential requests are met. Anything other than this would be premature and would only discourage potential new customers. Listen to why people haven't brought Pianoteq (Sound issues etc..).

Whilst version three is very good and could be upgraded, version four (Pro version?) has to be perfect.

TEST, TEST, TEST has to be the order of the day.

At the end of the day, every review and forum should say: WOW!

I agree that releasing PTQ prematurely on account of quality etc... would  not necessarily be a good move. However, let's give these guys the credit they deserve - they have done a gorgeous and ground breaking job until now, and have been very generous and responsive about it. We should not and can not expect PERFECTION out the next version, as we cannot expect it from any other piece of software. That would also mean that it would be the last version of Pianoteq, or any other piano software for that matter, and maybe even of some acoustic pianos.
I would have rather hoped for a bright long and prosperous future of significant improvements, that appear in reasonable intervals.
I would love to see Pianoteq Pro coming soon, with significant sound improvements. But I don't expect it to be perfect.

I understand that the Modartt team has gone a LONG way since its earlier foray. I started with them since version 2 and the progress has already been unfathomable for me.

With the YC5 model, we can really rest assure that the next version be nothing but jaw dropping. But even then, I believe that our insatiable desire for ultimate realism will kick in again, and a thread like this will inevitably arise (yet again).

However, I am sure that there will come a point in time when physical modeling gets soooo close, that acoustic piano will be relegated to the position of analogue music of today: in the cradles of die-hard purists of vinyl records, decrying what they believe to be the last bastion of "realism".

Just think in Nyquist! That day will come!

So does anyone have a clue when the next update will be released?

I've actually learned to not be too worried about _any_ "next update" with Pianoteq, because as I had absolutely not a clue that the "Rock Piano" was around the corner, I was so thrilled when it was actually released (even if I thought, "oh, ho-hum, whoopty-doo!" at first -- they made me _eat_ those words, because I _love_ that model!).

One can always rest assured that this MODARTT team is working on something of real value behind the scenes (though we must hope that they had some good summer vacations).  Until they prove me otherwise, I'm happy to wait for the next surprise!

:-)