Topic: The vibrating glass thread makes me want a modelled glass harp

I must admit that the first time I glanced at the title of the thread about Pianoteq making glasses respond, I thought it was about modelling a glass harp. I now understand the worries about having glasses respond to freqs in Pianoteq. But now I also want a modelled glass harp.

I'm not sure how hard this would be. I would expect that glasses would have lower inharmonicity than a piano string--isn't the appeal of a glass harp partly the purity of tone? (But also the reason that we may not want to listen to a glass harp for more than a few minutes.) There would be no soundboard.The glasses are the transducers, yes? Velocity of strikes would still control amplitude, but would it also affect pitch slightly? Does the player subtly alter the pitch with slight variations in speed to prevent the drone of sine waves? And attack velocity would of course control the attack, or would be the gliding attack.

Pitch would also be controlled by the amount of water in each glass and\or the size and material or thickness of the glass? The interface would allow us to see the glasses and the water in them as we adjusted each? Or to choose different glasses that might accent different partials?

Or there's the spinning version that makes glass wheels turn, per this article:

https://www.roh.org.uk/news/the-glass-h...instrument

But it drove people mad, and we might not want that.

Just a pipe dream, I suppose, or a glassy daydream.

Last edited by Jake Johnson (26-04-2020 02:02)

Re: The vibrating glass thread makes me want a modelled glass harp

Even Mozart wrote for Benjamin Franklin's glass armonica

https://youtu.be/CxsPTgSDuh4

Last edited by Stephen_Doonan (26-04-2020 16:14)
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Re: The vibrating glass thread makes me want a modelled glass harp

I posted an FXP that approximate that sound a while back:

https://forum.modartt.com/file/7f2kqq16
https://forum.modartt.com/uploads.php?f...monica.mp3

Last edited by Gilles (26-04-2020 12:54)

Re: The vibrating glass thread makes me want a modelled glass harp

Two videos fo the glass 'armonica:

Mozart and Mr. Rogers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkTUL7DjTow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSK_qObahWY

Re: The vibrating glass thread makes me want a modelled glass harp

Do you know this one ?

Cristal Baschet (invented 68 years ago)

https://youtu.be/tZ0S1FqFjvQ

Last edited by Gaston (26-04-2020 16:16)

Re: The vibrating glass thread makes me want a modelled glass harp

Gaston wrote:

Do you know this one ?

Cristal Baschet (invented 68 years ago)

That is so interesting! Thank you for posting this, Gaston.

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Re: The vibrating glass thread makes me want a modelled glass harp

Gaston wrote:

Do you know this one ?

Cristal Baschet (invented 68 years ago)

https://youtu.be/tZ0S1FqFjvQ

That's fascinating. Thanks for posting. It seems that there are three variations, then--the original glass, Franklin's spinning bowls, and ths later version with steel tubes.

Re: The vibrating glass thread makes me want a modelled glass harp

Hey, did you saw the mental health risks mentioned in the link???
https://www.roh.org.uk/news/the-glass-h...instrument

And if you are a pianoteq forum member you are certainly in a risk group.

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Ok, seriously speaking, I believe it would be nicer to model a old style (home made) glass harp, using glass cups, than model the Benjamin Franklin instrument.

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The "home made" glass harp is fine tuned with water, controlling the amount of water inside, and not just the size of the glass cup circunference (limited variances available to buy).
A modelled version would allow to adjust the pitch of each note by changing the amount of water or changing the circunference size, or changing both.

And in the mathematical world of modelling, you could put each glass cup by side, or one over another without direct touch glass with glass, or even put similar to Benjamin Flanklin, in 90 degree lying, without drop the water.
Who cares about gravitation law???

;-)

Last edited by Beto-Music (28-04-2020 15:15)