Topic: Recording to later play on YouTube (or others)

Okay guys, this question may seems too too obvious to even asked but its unclear to me

Im under the impression that the following its achievable with Pianoteq but I need an assurance. Please imagine the following scenary

I record a MIDI file (at the the same time recording a video) using my own Piano with my piano-sound, I open my DAW, and import such MIDI to it in a track with Pianoteq....

Can I them, try this midi files with as many different pianoteq sounds/pianos and settings and effects and mikes positions etc etc etc as I would like to, until finding the perfect one, them simply export this final MIDI as WAV and finally sincronise my choosen MIDI with my video

Again, I suppose the answer is a total YES, yet somehow make me think this will not be the case

Thanks

Re: Recording to later play on YouTube (or others)

Good news, the answer is a total YES, with a couple of cautions:
1) check that the tempo of the midi file has been embedded properly
2) you will need to set an appropriate velocity curve in Pianoteq
Apart from that, you should be good to go!

Re: Recording to later play on YouTube (or others)

Thanks mate

For the velocity curve in Pianoteq, you meant to addecuate Pianoteq velocity curve to my very own piano caracteristics?

Re: Recording to later play on YouTube (or others)

Yes, that's correct, set your velocity curve just as if you were using your piano for live input. The velocity curve affects midi playback - that came as a shock to me when I first discovered it! Try switching between the factory preset curves while playing a midi file and you'll see what I mean. The raw data doesn't change, but it gets filtered by the velocity curve.

Re: Recording to later play on YouTube (or others)

Thanks for trying to explain once again - still totally unclear hahahaha, I supposse I will just need to try as you say and then I will probably understand

One thing is for sure, and its the very first thing confusing me about the velocity curve:

There is a feature on Pianoteq that its suppossed to figure out your own piano velocity curve by making some tests, pressing the pianos keys in different ways, pressing the pedal etc etc etc

Each time I try the above, the sound, far from improving, gets horribly wrong by miles

Do this (what I just explained) could give you guys a clue that I could be perhaps doing something very wrong myself?

Thanks again and so sorry for perhaps not being able to understand what probably seems something so obvious to others

Re: Recording to later play on YouTube (or others)

Don't feel bad about it, it took me quite a while to understand the velocity curve - I think a lot of people struggle with it. The Calibration Assistant is far from perfect, as you have found out! You may find that somebody has posted a good curve for your piano in the Keyboard velocity curves section of this site: https://forum.modartt.com/viewforum.php?id=10 . If not, your best strategy may be to choose the factory curve that seems to work the best (for example 'Moderately fast keyboard') and then try manually adjusting it. Record your own midi file with a good dynamic range, then play it back, adjusting the control points on the curve as you go. Click on each point and use the down/up arrow to adjust it. Make very small adjustments, aiming to make it sound as natural as possible. I hope this is helpful. There should really be a lot more documentation on velocity curves IMO.

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Thanks again

I already looked time ago under that link that you supply me with and found my piano (well very very similar to mine) but after reading the answer, I really have not a clue how what I read should be applied/translated into Pianoteq phisycal velocity curve box in order to apply it

This is the link to my very piano (well my piano previous vertion plus this one has a soundboard and mine dosnt)
https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?id=6303

Re: Recording to later play on YouTube (or others)

Ah yes, it does look very mysterious, but it's simply a matter of copy and paste. Just copy the entire line that says 'Velocity = ...', then open the Velocity menu in Pianoteq and select Paste. Your velocity curve should appear, and you can save it under any name you wish. To understand what's going on with the curve: the first set of figures = the raw input data, the second set = how these are 'translated' in Pianoteq.
A simple example:
Velocity = [0, 32, 53, 70, 127; 0, 34, 56, 70, 127]
This means that input velocities below 70 will be very slightly boosted, but above 70 they will be unaltered.

Last edited by dazric (16-12-2019 17:44)

Re: Recording to later play on YouTube (or others)

Really as easy as that? thanks looked like so rare... hahahaha

Well, I tell you something, I already gave up just before getting this message from you as I tried literately almost everything possible and reached the conclusion that dont worth the hassle of speakers and cables all over the place as on my case the sound quality its not any better at all that the sound on my own piano (which I have to say I dislike lots)

Im going back now and give a last try with this tip of you, lets see what happen and finger cross else thats it, THANKS VERY MUCH Dazric

*Thats it I meant trying to play live. Recording for YT which is what this thread is all about still on my mind, but each time I start trying things out I end up trying live which is what I was really more interested in, my own play enjoyment with nice sounds...

Last edited by Jesús (16-12-2019 19:04)

Re: Recording to later play on YouTube (or others)

Well, for sure, something positive has ocurred thanks very much

Miles away from being a sound I would die for, but "I think" for sure every single different piano sounds now better than before, or even way better YET as I say, being VERY VERY VERY far from nothing special but the differences are there for sure. At this point, my head and ears are almost damaged so I think its time for me to quit for today and make a fresh start tomorrow with this new setting. Tomorrow I will probably be able to further explain other problems.

But again, somehow, once again, Im sort of leaving the subjet of this thread which were recording and looking more again for my real main interest which is playing taking advantage of Pianoteq sound

Will see tomorrow... thanks very much Dazric

Re: Recording to later play on YouTube (or others)

You're welcome! I think it's fair to say that getting control of the velocity curve is one of the most important things you can do in Pianoteq. It takes a bit of trial and error, but it sure is worth it. Good luck with your explorations, but take it in small doses to avoid brain overload!

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I am glad that you have already been helped with this issue. I also couldn't figure out the speed curve for a long time. Honestly, it seems to me that I can still make some mistakes when I set it up. However, it has become much better compared to my first attempts.

Re: Recording to later play on YouTube (or others)

It might be easier (or less potentially problematic) to export the audio of a recorded MIDI from Pianoteq, then import both that exported audio file, along with the video of the performance that was recorded as a MIDI file in Pianoteq, into a video editing app, and synchronize the audio to the video (and muting any audio present in the original video file, in favor of Pianoteq's superior exported audio), before exporting the edited video into a preferred format (like MP4 or .webm) for use at YouTube.

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