Topic: Better latencies with local control off?

Better latencies with local control off?
This question came up recently in another thread Mystery solved!

Can an internal connected sound engine of a digital piano influence the latency of the external MIDI output??
I could not find specific examples on the internet.

I became curious if I can find such an effect with my old Kawai ES3. At the moment it seems I just found a strong placebo effect

Setting the ES3 to local control off made me feel that for instance Pianoteq's Rhodes (connected via USB-MIDI) is more tight and feels better - hard to describe.

So I tried to verify the acoustic response times with and without local control off (time from key touch noise to speaker sound). Pianoteq 6.6.0 was set to standard Steinway D Prelude.

For example a recorded wave, where the measured timespan is 35 ms between key touch and pianoteq sound:

https://i.postimg.cc/rKwyc5MP/finger-click-to-speaker-sound.png

I found no clear evidence for better latency with local-off using a single note C5 on this Kawai.

No matter whether the internal connected ES3-sound was the default Piano or Organ (both volume muted with a switch).

It seems, that the response is a few milliseconds better with local off, but a manual key touch is not easy reproducible and could be the reason (although I tried to hit the note C5 with constant staccato forte several times.

The raw values of a few repetitions:

Pianoteq Steinway D Prelude, key C5
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ES3 Piano, local ON
[ms] latency
35
36
35
36
36

ES3 Piano, local OFF
[ms] latency
31
34
34
34
35
31
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ES3 Organ, local ON
[ms] latency
36
36
38
39
37
35
36

ES3 Organ, local OFF
[ms] latency
33
35
35
36
36
33
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This experiment is no general statement about keyboards with other internal electronics (of course) or latencies under higher cpu-load (polyphony, dsp-effects etc.).

Last edited by groovy (10-11-2019 10:47)