Topic: Find home piano sound ...
I tried to imitate a home piano. How similar is the sound?
https://soundcloud.com/yuripavl/glenn-m...ania-65000
- Yuri
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- L3nnard
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May I ask, which Pianoteq version by number and features (Stage, Standard, Pro) do you own? Which pianos do you own?
This would help me to explain, what the quickest way is to achieve that sound.
- Jake Johnson
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And what make and model is the piano that you recorded for the target sound?
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PT 6.5.4 Pro
A use Bechstein Prelude as base and experimenting with detune: tone, unison width, symphatic resonane...
What really doesn’t look like a piano?
I wanted to recreate such a typical home piano - not ruined with falling keys, but slightly detune, but pretty in its own way (I just have it at home)
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I think the issue too is that most sampled pianos are based on grands, not so much uprights. That's probably another factor if you're looking for that bespoke home piano tone (I know I am too ha ha)
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MaliceX wrote:
I think the issue too is that most sampled pianos are based on grands, not so much uprights. That's probably another factor if you're looking for that bespoke home piano tone (I know I am too ha ha)
Think all in vain?
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I was prompted by setting the Condition in the piano library - it’s right there under the pedals - it just allows you to set the status of the instrument ... In principle, what I need! But somehow I didn’t notice it - it’s well disguised!
- Qexl
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Hey Yuri,
glad to read that - definitely nothing is in vain with Pianoteq - I find that it can do anything I want in recording it.
There's a lot more to uncover in the interface - too much to list but the manual is pretty detailed and well laid out and one I recommend reading.
Try right-clicking on some of the controls to find extra settings and type in exact numbers instead of just sliding the controls - One example is to right-click that "Condition" slider itself to reveal that you can type in a different random seed number - so that different things happen to the condition
With Pianoteq Pro, you could be able to do as much tweaking as you need - it will take time and some focus to get to know all the tools, there are so many. Time worth taking.
Consider what MaliceX mentioned about the diff between grand and upright pianos - you can use the Pianoteq U4 upright piano to make a great home piano.. check out the user-made presets (FXP files you can load) on the Pianoteq FXP Corner forum.
Look for the ones using the U4 upright, and maybe the recent ones by forum user "bm" who has really gone to commendable efforts to model the U4 to his own Schimmel real piano at home. I made a variant of this which works well for my purposes - there's a world of user built piano presets to try there
Pianoteq Studio Bundle (Pro plus all instruments) - Kawai MP11 digital piano - Yamaha HS8 monitors
- MaliceX
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I dunno. The example touted as a 'home' piano sounds too well maintained or the owner can afford to keep it in tune. Most 'home pianos' I've heard sound more like this preset I just uploaded. (Made with Pro)
https://www.forum-pianoteq.com/file/2dk8jhea
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MaliceX wrote:
I dunno. The example touted as a 'home' piano sounds too well maintained or the owner can afford to keep it in tune. Most 'home pianos' I've heard sound more like this preset I just uploaded. (Made with Pro)
Thanks! Your preset more like a piano than mine...
I record ap and dp with your preset. Can you recognize AP and DP?
0-0:28 - piano 1
0:28 - end - piano 2.
What DP and what AP?
https://soundcloud.com/yuripavl/pennsyl...5000-ap-dp
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Yeah, lol, good point M. I've tried a lot of bad home pianos - but a reasonably well tuned one isn't too uncommon - maybe that's just because I'm gettin' oooold.
At my age, I'm not going to be artistically satisfied with a noticeably poorly maintained instrument, unless it's for a certain song (vibe), or maybe a 6 month experiment.. like picking up a wrecked guitar, you'll find something horrible or glorious that it does - I'd maybe be interested to record something of it (like capturing its soul) - but to play each day, I'd prefer a good piano in Pianoteq (with my own tweaks) so I can always feel that I'm reaching, to get beyond my own skills, improve and all that - but that's not everyone's heaven.
Mainly I want to feel like I'm playing the piano of my desires - not the piano of my nightmares
Yuri, the DP and AP in the recording is good to hear.. I heard a chair squeak in the AP recording - and lots more noise
I think the 'condition slider' and the 'Unison Width' sliders are the 2 best to make almost any default Pianoteq piano more home-like in that vein, cheers.
Pianoteq Studio Bundle (Pro plus all instruments) - Kawai MP11 digital piano - Yamaha HS8 monitors