Topic: Microphone positions from player's perspective

I watched this excellent video by Phil Best - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4SEgi5pADA. In this he talks about how to get Pianoteq to sound good. He mentions that he likes to move the microphones to Player's position. I have Pianoteq Stage (with Steinway D and K2 instruments). Which of the presets for each of the instruments has Microphone positions similar to Player's position?

Thanks,
Osho

Last edited by oshogg (22-07-2019 03:40)

Re: Microphone positions from player's perspective

oshogg, I suggest you download a standard demo and visually inspect the presets, to find ones which can meet your criteria.

Pianoteq 8 Studio Bundle, Pearl malletSTATION EM1, Roland (DRUM SOUND MODULE TD-30, HandSonic 10, AX-1), Akai EWI USB, Yamaha DIGITAL PIANO P-95, M-Audio STUDIOPHILE BX5, Focusrite Saffire PRO 24 DSP.

Re: Microphone positions from player's perspective

Thanks for the suggestion - will try that. But, this seems a bit cumbersome to do for all instruments and presets. Is this documented somewhere?

Osho

Re: Microphone positions from player's perspective

Say man, better you than me: or heaven forbid, someone else do your work for you!

You may wish to have a look into this thread: Feature request: More mic presets? A coincident stereo pair?

Pianoteq 8 Studio Bundle, Pearl malletSTATION EM1, Roland (DRUM SOUND MODULE TD-30, HandSonic 10, AX-1), Akai EWI USB, Yamaha DIGITAL PIANO P-95, M-Audio STUDIOPHILE BX5, Focusrite Saffire PRO 24 DSP.

Re: Microphone positions from player's perspective

oshogg, I also have the Stage version and am not as expert on the fine points of microphone placement, etc., as many others are here. However, I can point you to a few player-perspective presets for the Steinway D: "Steinway D Player Clean," "Steinway D Player Wide," and any preset that has "BA" in the name. The "BA" nomenclature indicates player perspective, whereas "AB" is recording (audience) perspective. Also, the "Steinway D Home" preset (my favorite for general day-to-day use) might also be player perspective, but I'm not sure. That preset used to be called "D4 Daily Practice" in older versions, and it has always been intended for daily live piano practice (as opposed to recording). I would guess that such a preset would also have a player perspective. If I'm wrong about that, perhaps someone else can correct me.

Re: Microphone positions from player's perspective

tom_croft24 wrote:

oshogg, I also have the Stage version and am not as expert on the fine points of microphone placement, etc., as many others are here. However, I can point you to a few player-perspective presets for the Steinway D: "Steinway D Player Clean," "Steinway D Player Wide," and any preset that has "BA" in the name. The "BA" nomenclature indicates player perspective, whereas "AB" is recording (audience) perspective. Also, the "Steinway D Home" preset (my favorite for general day-to-day use) might also be player perspective, but I'm not sure. That preset used to be called "D4 Daily Practice" in older versions, and it has always been intended for daily live piano practice (as opposed to recording). I would guess that such a preset would also have a player perspective. If I'm wrong about that, perhaps someone else can correct me.

Thanks Tom - very helpful.

Osho

Re: Microphone positions from player's perspective

Also the "Prelude" presets have a player's perspective placement of the microphones, and to my ears sound at least as good as the "Player" presets. They work very well with headphones.

Re: Microphone positions from player's perspective

Amen Ptah Ra wrote:

oshogg, I suggest you download a standard demo and visually inspect the presets, to find ones which can meet your criteria.

The task is not as daunting as it may seem: open both the mics window and the presets manager and drag one of them to the side. Then, as you click through the presets, you will see all the mic positions changing instantly. It's very instructive. You will notice that some of the player position settings have the mics very close to the piano, others are further back.

Re: Microphone positions from player's perspective

dazric wrote:

The task is not as daunting as it may seem: open both the mics window and the presets manager and drag one of them to the side. Then, as you click through the presets, you will see all the mic positions changing instantly. It's very instructive. You will notice that some of the player position settings have the mics very close to the piano, others are further back.

and you can use the freeze parameters feature to move a mic config from one piano to another.  this is a lot of fun to play with.