Topic: Yamaha CVP 709 and Pianoteq 5

I thought I would write something about my adventures with Pianoteq 5 and  this Yamaha digital piano. One of the distinctive features of the piano is the elaborate internal speaker system with subwoofer and spruce cone speakers that does sound very hifi. Of course as with any digital piano there are going to be colourations to the sound which detract from vivid realism compared to a well maintained acoustic. But the CVP 709 is not bad and its really fun to play. It has the same key board as a CLP585 and one of the great things about it is the ability to play softly, dynamically and with a good responsive connection to the sound. 

The main on board piano models are the Yamaha CFX and the Bosendorfer Imperial. I think I prefer the CFX through the speakers with lower reverb as this sounds bright, lively and a little more distinct. The Bosendorfer is more mellow and European in sound and works particularly well through headphones. It really is a toss up between the two with headphones and my choice often based more on my mood. I must say coming out of headphones I do notice the speaker coloration much more until my ears get used to the sound.

What has surprised me is how good Pianoteq 5 sounds through the speakers. I am using an apple macbook pro with a usb to host into the apple and an audio connection into the apple speaker input. Turning off the main local control on the Yamaha allows me to play the selected model and preset straight from Pianoteq 5. I use the pianos output for headphones. The Model B, the D4 and the K2 sound pretty good. In particular I'm getting some very pleasing results with Model B. All of these pianos improve when I use the headphones from the laptop. However, I still find myself leaning toward the two internal piano sounds through the systems speakers. The exception is the Bluethner Daily Practice. It sounds really wonderful, better than the internal sounds and better than other Pianoteq 5 sounds channelled through the Yamaha to my ear. I'm amazed really. It works brilliantly through speakers and headphones and even tames some of the speaker colouration and helps to improve the definition of the notes. I have tried all sorts of presets and FPX's on all of the above and cannot beat out this Bluethner daily practice.

This result has really helped me to appreciate Pianoteq 5 which is a fantastic piece of software. In addition, the on board upright piano sound of the Yamaha is frankly dreadful, very digital  and at times almost electronic. The Pianoteq upright U4 is superb in comparison and completely blows the yamaha upright out of the water. Its hard to imagine how Mozart can improve on this kind of stuff.

Kind Regards, Paul H

Re: Yamaha CVP 709 and Pianoteq 5

ref: Paulhuk ... I am sure ["Mozart"] you meant Modartt ...

If you like the Pianoteq U4 you might try the forum member mod from dklein:

http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/file/a5orb2l2

It is listed in the FXP Corner

Lanny

- - Pianoteq is to sampling what Photoshop is to Etch-a-Sketch - -

Re: Yamaha CVP 709 and Pianoteq 5

Hi LTECpiano,

No no, I meant Mozart Hmmm, well spotted. I did mean Modartt....the Mozarts of the software pianos. Thanks for the heads up. I will try the FXP you suggest.

Paul

Re: Yamaha CVP 709 and Pianoteq 5

Well,  I wasn't aiming for an upright piano,  but trying to emulate a Calliope (though I,  er,  started to loose steam during its creation!).

I visited my parents this weekend - my dad has a CVP609,  so I got to play that.   I turned the reverb way down (to 3), which improved things.   Small monitor speakers placed on top facing the wall behind it also greatly improved the fullness of the sound.

But I agree that all of their upright pianos are terrible.

The saxophone is pretty good,  however!

- David