Quality of Pleyel Piano in the Kremshegg Instruments Pack

I agree.  The Bechstein 1899 is wonderful.

With respect to the videos, and any older restorations, I don't know what they used for their restorations.  Imagine taking a nylon string guitar and restringing it with steel strings - it would not sounds the same.  Such may be the case when older instruments get modern felt hammer-coverings.  Even the weight of the new hammers changes the tone.

But, as you point out, this does not account for the sound of Pianoteq's 1835 Pleyel, which sounds nothing like the somewhat newer one in the video.  That latter is expressive and soft without sounding, well, odd.

- David

Restorations is intented to restore to original form, but sometimes they tend to modernize.

For example in film restoration (cinematographic motion picture) there is some modernization, like remove all hiss from soundtrack, reduce grain for Blu Ray mastering, remove some visible wires used in old sets effects, clean up too much any dust or scratch in original image optical composition. Some people says it's going too far...

For piano maybe a similar thing can happens, when or if "restorers" think they can cash more with a very old (160 years) piano if they manage to make it sound closer to a modern piano.

Anyway I believe Modartt just created the Pleyel model to sound as the original vintage piano used in the project. The fact Bechstein 1899 sounds great proves they could create a different Pleyel model, like the one in the vídeo, if was the intention.
And whe don't know what Pleyel manufacturer introduced in pianos between 1835 and 1843, maybe some alteration or new feature.

Am I the only who thinks the vídeo had too much verberation ???

Anyway one question arise now. Can Modartt adjust pleyel, modernize it, just for a preset version called modernized?

You mean DIFFERENT SOUND? Pianoteq's playability is second to none.

Aidan you are free to have a opinion.

But you need to understand that the Kremsegg vintage piano collection it's not just to offer great sounding pianos like people are used to hear and play today, but also to offer the oportunit to feel how was like to play vintage instruments. That's why Kremsegg collection have models like Bechstein, with feels only a little vintage and have a great sound and playability, and have older models with some chartacteristics of their time, even some original deffects.

That's why they charged 4 pianos for the price of one. 

The KiVIR project also follows a similar approach, and are free add nos.
No other piano software company give attention to vintage pianos. This makes the pianoteq Kremsegg collection even more important.

I guess its debatable how accurate Pianoteq is at reproducing the original sounds of these pianos. If it comes close to repoducing the real life sound of them then fair enough, but it may not. Some of the pianos instruments provided by Pianoteq are still being worked on and improved AFAIK, and maybe the Pleyel needs some work also? Or maybe not - I don't have access to one so can't compare.

I played around a bit with the options, but you are right, not so much. Normally I expect the provided presets to produce more or less the best or near best setups possible. But I have noticed huge differences in the sound produced in changing the microphone setups before, so I'll give it another try sometime, and do the same for the Frenzel piano also.

So what about the 1st Kremsegg collection then? How does that stand up? Any that would be enjoyable to me as the Bechstein is in that set? I can't enjoy the demos for some reason - having those notes missing makes it impossible to get a real feel for them (for me).