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Topic: tunings in scala

Hello!  Does anyone know how I can use Scala to tune my pianoteq in 1/4 mean tone and 1/4 tones in equal temperament?  Thanks!

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Re: tunings in scala

A 1/4-comma meantone is already available. Just choose Other from the Temperament options, then click Scale -> Tuning presets -> 1/4-comma meantone ... (if that's what you're asking).

1/4 tones in equal temperament would mean one octave for every two usual keyboard octaves (24 notes per octave). I don't see a preset for that. But the Scala site has a huge collection of tunings ready to go. You're sure to find what you're looking for there. See

http://huygens-fokker.org/scala/downloads.html
http://huygens-fokker.org/docs/scalesdir.txt

Last edited by SteveLy (13-02-2016 05:13)
3/2 = 5

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Re: tunings in scala

I believe that you need Pianoteq Standard or Pianoteq Pro to import an external Scala file. I do not believe that Pianoteq Stage supports this. Am I right?

Instructions for using different Scala temperaments and tuning systems are in the Pianoteq user manual.

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Re: tunings in scala

I ran into the same "problem" ... as described here _> http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/viewtopic...01#p941701

stevely, thank you for referencing to this topic ... unfortunately your instruction doesnot really solve my problem. I need exactly what you describe: 24 notes per octave and scala doesnot really help as it is not (sucessfully) installable (for me [under windows at least]) and pianoteq only accepts kbm-files, no scl-files (!?). what can I do !?

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stefan geissler

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Re: tunings in scala

You might have to create your own kbm file if you can't find one online. See this thread: http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/viewtopic.php?id=4199 for an example, posted by user jsoo.

3/2 = 5

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Re: tunings in scala

Stevely, thank you for help ... I already had looked into the kbm-files and it's obviously not TOO complicated, but actually I don't have the "head" for it at the moment (as I said, I am preparing for a concert in the next days) ... mhm, could anybody help me with this. that would be superb


I just need a kbm-file were (on the keyboard) C-1 C1 C3 C5 and C7 are "normal" Cs and in-between those Cs there should be equally tuned 23 notes (between two octaves on the keyboard). mhm ...

would be very nice!!

best wishes
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Re: tunings in scala

You definitely need a .scl file to re-tune. You may also need a .kbm file to map the tuning as you indicate. You don't need to run Scala, and PT does indeed accept both .scl and .kbm files.

.scl file for 24-note ET:

! 24et.scl
! 24-tone equal temperament

 24
!
 50.00000
 100.00000
 150.00000
 200.00000
 250.00000
 300.00000
 350.00000
 400.00000
 450.00000
 500.00000
 550.00000
 600.00000
 650.00000
 700.00000
 750.00000
 800.00000
 850.00000
 900.00000
 950.00000
 1000.00000
 1050.00000
 1100.00000
 1150.00000
 1200.00000

Possible keyboard mapping:

! 24et.kbm
! Size of map:
24
! First MIDI note number to retune:
0
! Last MIDI note number to retune:
127
! Middle note where the first entry in the mapping is mapped to:
60
! Reference note for which frequency is given:
60
! Frequency to tune the above note to (floating point e.g. 440.0):
261.625565
! Scale degree to consider as formal octave:
0
! Mapping.
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23

Adjust to taste. There might be simpler ways of doing this; I'm quite new to Scala.

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Re: tunings in scala

hey, that's really nice .... and actually the 24et.scl does what I need !!

ok, one thing is still "missing" ... I tested 24et.scl with the linear keymap, but I need to transpose my miditrack (for whatever reason) 15 keys up (in cubase) to get it to the (more-or-less) same tune/notes as the "akustik piano" (with which I started with). but then it's really ok !! mhm ...

any ideas !?