Topic: Save Preset with Pedal Down

I've created a preset in which I would like to have one of the pedals permanently engaged (let's say the lute pedal for example). Though you can click on a pedal to engage it, these permanent pedals are not saved as part of the preset. Is it possible to do this somehow?

This has caused a problem I can't find an easy solution to- I have a midi file which needs to be recorded as a wave file using this preset with a permanent pedal engauged. The problem is when I load the midi file and then engage the pedal, the pedal automatically disengages when I play it back or export as a wave file.

Any simple solution to this (I know I could record it live, but I'd prefer not to have to do this)?

Re: Save Preset with Pedal Down

I don't think that's possible, no.

Hard work and guts!

Re: Save Preset with Pedal Down

Thanks for the reply-

In that case I'd love to see this implemented in Pianoteq - pedals permanently down included in saved presets.

Re: Save Preset with Pedal Down

NathanShirley wrote:

This has caused a problem I can't find an easy solution to- I have a midi file which needs to be recorded as a wave file using this preset with a permanent pedal engauged. The problem is when I load the midi file and then engage the pedal, the pedal automatically disengages when I play it back or export as a wave file.

Any simple solution to this (I know I could record it live, but I'd prefer not to have to do this)?

Well, you could open that MIDI file in a DAW and add a CC message that presses the necessary pedal before any notes are actually played. That'd work.

Hard work and guts!

Re: Save Preset with Pedal Down

You can also edit the sustain pedal velocity curve of your preset, setting it to a constant 127 value

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He's talking about lute pedal, though...

Hard work and guts!

Re: Save Preset with Pedal Down

Thanks for the responses.

Yes I ended up editing the midi and adding in an 'on' command for the pedal I needed, which worked fine, though I would love the ability to save certain pedals, permanently down, to presets in the future.

The realism of the instruments Pianoteq has modeled is generally amazingly impressive. But I also see such a huge potential in creating brand new instruments... not necessarily aiming at realism. So many synthesizers seem to either be very lacking in many ways, or just ridiculously convoluted - geared towards the days of physical patch cables and the like. Pianoteq seems to be coming at it from a very musical perspective; harmonics, string length, strike position, etc... so much more satisfying and intuitive to work with.

My purpose for trying to get a pedal to be permanently down was part of my experimenting with making new, unreal instruments. I am a classical composer, writing for acoustic instruments, but have always wanted to break into the world of synthesizers. Using a heavily modified harpsichord, I've composed my first piece specifically for Pianoteq, and thanks to getting that pedal to stay down, you can see what you think here-

Thanks again,

https://youtu.be/hcHZkIFbmS8

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That sounds very nice!

By the way, I don't think it's a good idea to save the pedal state with the preset... it could potentially produce a lot of issues when switching presets etc. So I would definitely either edit MIDI, or assign the pedal's CC number to a button on your MIDI controller (if it has assignable buttons), then use that button instead of an actual pedal to control it.

Hard work and guts!

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Thanks,

I suppose I have a lot to learn when it comes to MIDI...

I'm also experimenting with an expression pedal in Pianoteq- seems like plenty of potential, but I'll likely have some questions about that too.

Thanks again,