Topic: Mac Pro

Hello Everybody,
I'm curious as to whether a Mac Pro with Xeon (8 cores) processors would provide better results than a PC running i7 (Quad core) processors. I've heard that Xeon processors are less prone to errors; however, slower than i7 processors. I currently own a PC (Quad core @2.5 Ghz, 4MB Cache, 4 GB of Ram, Windows Vista 64 bit). Would I see any improvements in pianoteq (sound/playability) if I upgraded to a Mac Pro (8 cores, Xeon @ 2.8Ghz, 12 MB Cache, 8 GB of Ram, OSX Mvericks? I've never owned a Mac, but I'm curious as to whether I'd notice any improvements over a PC.  Thank You.

Last edited by Karl (09-11-2013 18:34)

Re: Mac Pro

I would also like to know this. If so / if not, does the difference come mainly from the CPU itself, or from the software environment (OS, bunch of anti-virus etc etc) ...?

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Re: Mac Pro

You wouldn't notice any difference in playability nor sound. Both CPUs are plenty powerful and Pianoteq is not coded to take 100% of CPU (nor to sound different on different CPUs, that would be ridiculous), i7 is enough, you don't have to have a Mac Pro to make Pianoteq run comfortably. A PC is just fine.

Last edited by EvilDragon (10-11-2013 00:21)
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Re: Mac Pro

So, basically there are no real-world benefifts between a PC and a Mac of similar configurations (hardware); however, that leaves us with the operating systems. In my case, Vista 64bit has been O.k. for pianoteq (anti-virus, and windows defender disabled). Recently, I've noticed some odd behavior from my DAW (Sonar). Most virtual instrument are not responding to dynamic changes; I can play soft or loud; however, the transitions bettween these dynamics are unstable and rough. Sonar used to work perfectly before some recent Windows -automatic- updates. Pianoteq seems uneffected, though. It seems like Windows has a reputation of getting in the way instead of quietly disappearing into the background. Perhaps installing Sonar, Pianoteq, etc. onto a seperate internal drive could be beneficial; I'm considering a SSD for this.

Last edited by Karl (10-11-2013 14:32)

Re: Mac Pro

Never had any problems with Windows 7 Pro here. They never got in way of my work. Best Windows version ever!

Installing on secondary drives won't help you either, Pianoteq is not a sample library and it does not rely on hard disk activity at all - everything Pianoteq needs is loaded in RAM ant that's the end of it.


Define "most virtual instruments". I have a lot of them and they all respond to velocity superbly (well, I'm talking about synthesizers here - when sample libraries are concerned, depending on how they are programmed, you can notice the velocity layers, but on a few libraries this problem is solved nicely).


I'm using Reaper 4, though. I came to it after being severely disappointed by Sonar 7's instability, and man am I a happy camper now.

Last edited by EvilDragon (10-11-2013 15:22)
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Re: Mac Pro

Thanks, EvilDragon. I've heard many positive things about Windows 7; especially in comparison to Vista. I've looked into the Dell XPS 8700 with Windows 7, i7, lots of ram etc. (about $800.00). I just might go that route, after all. Obviously, Pianoteq sounds great, however, one last thing I've been considering (and I'm probably wrong about this) is using a better sound card for improved fidelity. I currently use an M-Audio 192, and can get away with a 64 buffer size (1.3 ms); I notice no latency at all, and the sound is good, but I wonder if an even better audio interface with higher-quality components (audio converters etc.) would make a difference in -improved- fidelty. To be specific, I've been eyeing the MOTU TRACK 16 (usb/firewire) audio interface.

Re: Mac Pro

The sound Pianoteq puts out will be the same regardless of your soundcard. The most differences in sound you will notice by using different monitors, of course. Audio interface is there to support you with lower latency more than it would impart a specific timbral changes to the sound your computer produces...

Hard work and guts!

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Looks like I'll stick to my current sound card for a while.