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Topic: U4 loudness and sound quality vs Yamaha upright

Here's my experience while comparing the U4 model with a Yamaha upright piano (Disklavier):

1) I calibrated the velocity curve for the Disklavier.
2) I matched the loudness of the two pianos, by switching the Disklavier from normal mode (sound from the real piano) to silent (sound from Pianoteq). Since the dynamics slider seems not to affect the higher dynamics, I started playing back notes at 127 velocity.
- I adjusted the dynamic range of Pianoteq so that the soft dynamics is as close as possible to that of the real piano (dynamics set to about 54 dB).

My findings are that this matching works fairly well for the low and mid range in Pianoteq, however the high range is unrealistically loud at high dynamics.
Is there a way to overcome this?

Also the overall sound of the U4 is quite bright, but I partially solved this with Pianoteq EQ.

Last edited by noou (17-10-2013 16:01)

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Re: U4 loudness and sound quality vs Yamaha upright

Are you sure that the dynamics & volume are well regulated for such comparison ?

You can controll volume of each note in Pro version.  Maybe it can helps to get way you like.

You can also controll other setting only for the high range.

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Re: U4 loudness and sound quality vs Yamaha upright

Beto-Music wrote:

You can controll volume of each note in Pro version.

In the standard version too: it has note per note edit for volume and detune.

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Re: U4 loudness and sound quality vs Yamaha upright

Thank you all.
I'll have a look at the per-note volume functionality.

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Re: U4 loudness and sound quality vs Yamaha upright

You could look into the mike placement, if any, also.

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Re: U4 loudness and sound quality vs Yamaha upright

Hi all, here again hoping that the developers listen to this: please find a way to fix the treble attack and loudness! It not just a matter of volume, but clearly something related to the physical model.
Very few piano quality assessments exist, however some refer exactly to the excessive loudness and harsh attack in the treble range to discriminate bad from good pianos.

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Re: U4 loudness and sound quality vs Yamaha upright

Pianoteq 5 it's in test, and the U4 is one of the models that is being reworked to get even better than the actual one.

It's the right momment to Modartt and the Beta test group listen to suggestions.


noou wrote:

Hi all, here again hoping that the developers listen to this: please find a way to fix the treble attack and loudness! It not just a matter of volume, but clearly something related to the physical model.
Very few piano quality assessments exist, however some refer exactly to the excessive loudness and harsh attack in the treble range to discriminate bad from good pianos.

Last edited by Beto-Music (21-03-2014 00:02)