Topic: Blüthner vs. Upright add-on...

Blüthner vs. Upright ...which one would you choose, and why?

I don't have that much money, but i'd really like an additional -good- piano sound in my arsenal. Which one of these two do you guys consider more "bang for buck" so to speak, and for what reason(s)... more versatile, sounds better, etc etc....?

Yeah i know there are demo versions, but the missing notes and 20min. limit just throw away all my concentration

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I didn't buy the upright but I did audition it. Blüthner without a moment's hesitation.

It's just a much richer and less quirky instrument that's a good choice as the centre of your collection. The upright (and I play an upright at home) is far more of a special-purpose instrument.

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I havn't tried the upright. It is very likely nice to play but why would anyone prefer an upright over a grand (maybe some freaky retro-boogie-woogie pianist)?

For me it was clearly the Bluethner that made my decision to purchase pianoteq at all!

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The U4 upright it's richer in terms of naturality, while the Bluthner have all the advantages of a grand piano and some good deal of naturality.

The next grand piano for pianoteq will probably be breathtaking.

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Beto-Music wrote:

The next grand piano for pianoteq will probably be breathtaking.


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Bluethner all the way - I use the add-on 99% of the time.

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I own both, but if I could keep only one, it would be the Blüthner.

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Like in real world, people would prefer to have a very good grand piano over a very  good upright piano.

That do not state that the upright it's a worse add-on. Indeed it's the best piano add-on of pianoteq in terms of recreate a given piano model/type with naturality.

Last edited by Beto-Music (10-08-2013 20:10)

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In my opinion, the current version of the Blüthner represents Pianoteq's "masterpiece" in terms of classical music repertoire.  This is not to put down any other Pianoteq pianos -- far from it:  They are all very good to excellent instruments.

With that said, if I were forced to keep only one Pianoteq model, today (and of course my opinion might change in the future), I would personally choose the Blüthner.  I am proud to state that I have completely eliminated every SAMPLED piano library from my computer's four internal 10,000 RPM hard drives (2+ terabyte total storage capacity) for two reasons:  1) to free up hard disk space; and 2) for the past few years, I simply did not have the desire to play the piano via sampled piano libraries -- Pianoteq is THAT good.

Cheers,

Joe

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jcfelice88keys wrote:

In my opinion, the current version of the Blüthner represents Pianoteq's "masterpiece" in terms of classical music repertoire.  This is not to put down any other Pianoteq pianos -- far from it:  They are all very good to excellent instruments.

With that said, if I were forced to keep only one Pianoteq model, today (and of course my opinion might change in the future), I would personally choose the Blüthner.  I am proud to state that I have completely eliminated every SAMPLED piano library from my computer's four internal 10,000 RPM hard drives (2+ terabyte total storage capacity) for two reasons:  1) to free up hard disk space; and 2) for the past few years, I simply did not have the desire to play the piano via sampled piano libraries -- Pianoteq is THAT good.

Cheers,

Joe

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The Upright is just the best Piano I have.
All of their Pianos are nice but the Upright sounds more like a real Piano for my venue.
We record on occasion, our last set, and then compare it to the first set, to see if our ears, chops and tolerance for alchohol are consistant.
Doesn't matter if I use Orang Tree's excellent Rosewood Grand, with Sostenuto believe it or not, and the Steinway D from Modartt, and they just sound "outside" of the band, too pretty and perfect.
The Upright sits in the mix and you can easily close your eyes while listening and envision a real instrument on stage.
I can't explain it any better than that.
And I will never need another Piano.
I have had dozens of Pianos going back to the Jerry Coakley 16MB library for my S760/EMU 5000 samplers.
I have been a whiny beotch about Sostenuto, and sound quality for over 20 years.
PianoTeqs Upright has helped me continue performing for drunks and degenerate gamblers, fine hookers and hustlers, so I owe them for the next decade of paystubs I will make.
As of 1/2013 I decided against retiring.
Modartts Upright had alot to do with that.

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i initially purchased pianoteq because of the 4.5 update, and the upright model. i also thought the bluthner model was the best of the grands, and intended buying that as well. however, i have modified a steinway model d to a state that i could play it until i died in total happiness. since 4.5, pianoteq has destroyed sample based pianos.

Last edited by red (16-08-2013 19:09)

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Well, this is my first message here, so hello to everyone and thanks to those who persuaded me to go Pianoteq. I didn't take a lot of persuading!

I bought the Blüthner a couple of days ago and am very pleased. I had come to love the sound of the D4 through several projects (arrangements / compositions) but I'm quickly adapting to the Blüthner. As I do all my "playing" through the midi editor at present, it's been quite some fun. (Long ago I played on one of these - not sure what model it was. 4 comes to mind.) I'm sold on Pianoteq; can't think of any reason for sampled pianos....

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Blüthner.

I asked myself the same question recently. Listened to the demos on the Pianoteq website, played with the demo instruments a bit in Pianoteq itself. Both sound excellent, but the upright is much more of a 'specialty' instrument compared to the Blüthner, which is quite a versatile grand, and which you can get a lot more use out of.

I ended up going for the Blüthner, and I think the experience was somewhat similar to buying an expansion pack to a game after you've played it for a while: suddenly, you have a whole lot more to explore and work with. It was quite fun, by the time the initial euphoria of "goddamn, just LISTEN to this beautiful new piano" finally wore off, it had convinced me that my money was well spent. Very well spent, indeed.

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Thanks for the advice guys, i got the Blüthner and i'm very pleased with it! I especially like it in binaural mode through my headphones, it sounds just awesome.

Might get the upright as well if i have some spare $ in the future

http://soundcloud.com/delt01
Pianoteq 5 STD+blüthner, Renoise 3 • Roland FP-4F + M-Audio Keystation 88es
Intel i5@3.4GHz, 16GB • Linux Mint xfce 64bit

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There is a huge misconception when applying the acoustic Upright/Grand comparison to the digital instrument.

The perhaps most important limitation of an acoustic upright is the simpler action. This difference is completely eliminated by the digital instrument. The only limiting factor is common to both instruments: your own MIDI keyboard.

The remaining differences are no real limitations, the level of the simulated reality is more important, than the sound of an instrument, IMHO. An upright might sound more intimate and beautiful IMHO in a home, than a big grand designed for a large concert hall.

(I have the Blüthner, the upright have only demoed, but I will probably want to get it too for playing early classical music.)

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Just a friendly reminder:

If you are fine in budget, you can always turn a real piano, or set of piano keys and piano action, into a midi controller.

If you are interested, search about PNOscan. Pianotteq user have a 20% discount.

Last edited by Beto-Music (17-09-2013 01:40)