Topic: Leap Motion Air Piano

When I heard of "Leap Motion", that's the first application that sprung into my mind.
Luckily, it was quite a common though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdhnicI5Es8

http://vimeo.com/56110703


Now someone has to invent a way to give physical feedback to the fingers.
They already done it in the Holodeck

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Re: Leap Motion Air Piano

Yes, I see that this has now been released. Best Buy, the US chain store, is selling them. It's getting mixed reviews on the Best Buy site, a useful place to check, since the purchasers have a wide range of expectations and experience. It seems to do best with the most recent operating systems and a 64 bit system.

I certainly want it to work as a controller for Pianoteq's Note edit panes, whether it's used to make a standard monitor into a touch screen or used to move things in the air. But I doubt that I will buy one until I read more about its precision.

I'm curious about using it to edit text--normal touch screens are not great for this. Because of the width of one's finger, selecting small amounts of text or moving them to a precise location is hit-and-miss. But if this works better, I will probably dive into it.

But first--any Pianoteq users with a Leap Motion, yet? Let's see those videos...!

Last edited by Jake Johnson (30-07-2013 20:18)

Re: Leap Motion Air Piano

Jake Johnson wrote:

I certainly want it to work as a controller for Pianoteq's Note edit panes, whether it's used to make a standard monitor into a touch screen or used to move things in the air. But I doubt that I will buy one until I read more about its precision.

I'm curious about using it to edit text--normal touch screens are not great for this. Because of the width of one's finger, selecting small amounts of text or moving them to a precise location is hit-and-miss. But if this works better, I will probably dive into it.

I purchased one of these but have already returned it. Fortunately I ordered it through Amazon UK, not direct from Leap, so the returns process was straightforward. Like you, I thought it might make a good substitute for a touch screen monitor, but based on my admittedly brief experience I'm not sure that it ever can be. The device is supposed to be able to track finger position with great accuracy, but it's actually quite difficult and tiring to try and maintain accurate positioning of your fingers within a 3D space. It's far easier to control a 2D screen via a mouse or touch screen on a 2D surface. I think the video earlier in this thread demonstrates this - I'd like to see that user play a fast arpeggio :-)

Although the device is able to track the positions of multiple fingers in a 3D space it can of course only do this if the fingers do not obscure each other, since the sensors only see the hand from a single direction. This appears to rule out the possibility of playng 'air piano' with any kind of normal 'thumb under' piano fingering. When using the device's visualiser application (can't remember what it's called), fingers would often spontaneously disappear from view.

So, although it's an interesting concept I'm not convinced that it's particularly useful at the present state of development.

regards,
John

Re: Leap Motion Air Piano

It would be usefull to capture moviment, if have accuracy.

Imagine capure the hand's performance and create a CGI animation following the exact performance. 

Maybe even capture and compute the animation in real time (simple detail animation). It would be helpfull for teaching piano technics, like showing something in diferente angles, slow motion etc...

Perhaps it's required more than one sensor (to help get all details), to make the ideal reality.

Last edited by Beto-Music (31-07-2013 15:35)

Re: Leap Motion Air Piano

There is quite a wide gap in opinions on the Leap Motion forums. I was surprised, going to their site, that there are so few applications for it right now.

Did you try out the Geco midi CC application?

Are you on Windows 8, 64 bit, by the way? I'm reading some posts on their forum that say their software was developed with that platform and the latest mac platform in mind.

Last edited by Jake Johnson (31-07-2013 16:35)

Re: Leap Motion Air Piano

Jake Johnson wrote:

Are you on Windows 8, 64 bit, by the way? I'm reading some posts on their forum that say their software was developed with that platform and the latest mac platform in mind.

I tried it on my laptop which is windows 8, 64-bit, i5 processor. I didn't try the application you mention. I gave up on the device after an hour or two as I could see it would just end up lying in a cupboard. It just seemed too clumsy to be really useful. Maybe it could be argued that more time is needed to adapt to it. However, I’m old enough to remember when the mouse and GUI were new concepts. These were easy to use from the outset, likewise the use of touch screens. Technically the leap motion device is an impressive achievement but at present I can't see that it makes the PC and applications easier to use compared to a conventional mouse or touchscreen interface.