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Topic: Pianoteq 9 vst3 higher cpu usage and lots of spikes in Cantabile

Hi there,

Pianoteq 9 sounds great, but when using the vst3 in Cantabile I notice significantly higher CPU usage than v8. Also, a lot of CPU spiking (and crackling), also visible in the built in performance meter in Pianoteq. Performance is better in the standalone version. For now, v9 is unusable for me for live perfomance in Cantabile, so will keep using v8 for now.

Is this to be expected for v9? Anybody else with the same experience?

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Re: Pianoteq 9 vst3 higher cpu usage and lots of spikes in Cantabile

JorgV wrote:

Hi there,

Pianoteq 9 sounds great, but when using the vst3 in Cantabile I notice significantly higher CPU usage than v8. Also, a lot of CPU spiking (and crackling), also visible in the built in performance meter in Pianoteq. Performance is better in the standalone version. For now, v9 is unusable for me for live perfomance in Cantabile, so will keep using v8 for now.

Is this to be expected for v9? Anybody else with the same experience?

I have the same crackling experience with the stand alone version on my Windows audio PC.

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Re: Pianoteq 9 vst3 higher cpu usage and lots of spikes in Cantabile

BlackForest wrote:
JorgV wrote:

Hi there,

Pianoteq 9 sounds great, but when using the vst3 in Cantabile I notice significantly higher CPU usage than v8. Also, a lot of CPU spiking (and crackling), also visible in the built in performance meter in Pianoteq. Performance is better in the standalone version. For now, v9 is unusable for me for live perfomance in Cantabile, so will keep using v8 for now.

Is this to be expected for v9? Anybody else with the same experience?

I have the same crackling experience with the stand alone version on my Windows audio PC.

I also noticed higher CPU usage and higher chance of crackling on my M1 Mac mini under extreme conditions. This never happened with V8. Seems to be the price for the Pianoteq improvements. Yet still usable.

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Re: Pianoteq 9 vst3 higher cpu usage and lots of spikes in Cantabile

I have the same problems with Pianoteq 9.
I also notice significantly higher CPU usage than v8.
Also, a lot of CPU spiking and crackling.
For now, v9 is also unusable for me, so I will keep using v8 for now.

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Re: Pianoteq 9 vst3 higher cpu usage and lots of spikes in Cantabile

sonata wrote:

I have the same problems with Pianoteq 9.
I also notice significantly higher CPU usage than v8.
Also, a lot of CPU spiking and crackling.
For now, v9 is also unusable for me, so I will keep using v8 for now.

Oddly, on my intel-based macbook pro, I have the opposite experience: things have been running considerably more smoothly than they have in v8.

I did hear some crackling at lower external bitrates (44.1khz) but at my current settings (192k, 384k), no problems to report

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Re: Pianoteq 9 vst3 higher cpu usage and lots of spikes in Cantabile

I first noticed that rendering audio offline from recorded MIDI takes just over 50% more time with the v9 VST3 in Sonar on an i9 Win11 laptop, and just confirmed the CPU load playing the v9 VST3 in real time on my i7 Windows desktop is also on the order of 50% higher. I haven't checked the standalone app.

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Re: Pianoteq 9 vst3 higher cpu usage and lots of spikes in Cantabile

JorgV wrote:

Hi there,

Pianoteq 9 sounds great, but when using the vst3 in Cantabile I notice significantly higher CPU usage than v8. Also, a lot of CPU spiking (and crackling), also visible in the built in performance meter in Pianoteq. Performance is better in the standalone version. For now, v9 is unusable for me for live perfomance in Cantabile, so will keep using v8 for now.

Is this to be expected for v9? Anybody else with the same experience?

I get exactly the same, I hope that it gets fixed, because there are some nice new things in v9, but for now it is not suitable for live performance (nor rehearsals).

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Re: Pianoteq 9 vst3 higher cpu usage and lots of spikes in Cantabile

Here is an example:
When I play the factory demo for the “Blüthner Improv” preset in the stand-alone version, I have
a CPU load of approx. +80% in v9 compared to v8.

I work with Windows 10, 32 GB RAM, fast SSD.

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Re: Pianoteq 9 vst3 higher cpu usage and lots of spikes in Cantabile

Hi,

Higher cpu usage (in standalone version, not only in vst) is expected as it is part of the soundboard improvements we have made, they do come at a cost -- it may depend on the specific instrument you are playing.

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julien wrote:

Hi,

Higher cpu usage (in standalone version, not only in vst) is expected as it is part of the soundboard improvements we have made, they do come at a cost -- it may depend on the specific instrument you are playing.

But that doesn't make sense if you can no longer use these sounds because of the high CPU load on Pianoteq. There should at least be an option to simply disable the CPU-intensive improvements so that you can at least work with the sounds at the level of Pianoteq 8 without having to constantly switch between versions 8 and 9.

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Re: Pianoteq 9 vst3 higher cpu usage and lots of spikes in Cantabile

I noticed it on my Asus laptop (i5 8th gen). So the only solution I found is to set polyphony to "pessimistic" without sacrificing the preset's settings. I don't know how much it drops the polyphony, but it is a solution. The problem is because the many microphones of each piano preset. If reduce them to just 2 microphones, the problem solved. But I prefer the first solution.