Topic: New video Bach Fugue nr 9 in E Major BWV 854 from WTC I

Dear Friend,

That's the first Fugue of the year for me, the crisp air of the holidays is not forgotten, and this is one of those fugue that give you a strong boost.. Another small step this new year towards my goal of trying to record all of Bach's WTC 1 with Pianoteq.

In the fugue (a 3) one feels something of the joy of a wandering life which indeed well befits the spring-mood of the key. The energetic run of the short theme (alto), is not peaceful enjoyment, but resolution, active energy.
The semiquaver movement of the second motive continues without interruption until the close of the whole fugue, and first, as countersubject (counterpoint to the Comes), then, as filling up until the entry of the third voice (bass); with 6th measure taken as 7th. Here the sixth parallels appear to show us two wanderers arm in arm. The syncopated motive, which is here taken up by the alto part, is likewise turned to account further on, and first in the immediate continuation. This elevated mood becomes more intense still in the next episode (over the moving bass busy with the motive a of the countersubject).
The hearts of the wanderers expand, and in jubilant tones sounds again the theme in the soprano (the Dux in a higher position). I leave to the imagination, once aroused, to complete the picture, and only point, besides, to the episode after the second development, in which the bass moves along somewhat painfully, and the alto sighs from weariness, while the soprano advances with merry hum.
The concluding section (entirely in the principal key) has, first of all, a complete development (bass: Dux, soprano: Comes, alto: Dux), and after a free imitation of the great episode of the middle part in the principal key, still an incomplete one (soprano: Dux, alto — after an episode of four measures — Comes). What simplicity in the disposition and development as compared with the gigantic fugue in Eb-minor!

My actual setting is:

Played on Yamaha P125 piano stage                                          Video Recording Samsung Galaxy A54.
VST: Hamburg Steinway D Pianoteq Stage 8.4.0

https://youtu.be/D70oCIbxmbk

Re: New video Bach Fugue nr 9 in E Major BWV 854 from WTC I

carmelo.paolucci wrote:

Dear Friend,

That's the first Fugue of the year for me, the crisp air of the holidays is not forgotten, and this is one of those fugue that give you a strong boost.. Another small step this new year towards my goal of trying to record all of Bach's WTC 1 with Pianoteq.

In the fugue (a 3) one feels something of the joy of a wandering life which indeed well befits the spring-mood of the key. The energetic run of the short theme (alto), is not peaceful enjoyment, but resolution, active energy.
The semiquaver movement of the second motive continues without interruption until the close of the whole fugue, and first, as countersubject (counterpoint to the Comes), then, as filling up until the entry of the third voice (bass); with 6th measure taken as 7th. Here the sixth parallels appear to show us two wanderers arm in arm. The syncopated motive, which is here taken up by the alto part, is likewise turned to account further on, and first in the immediate continuation. This elevated mood becomes more intense still in the next episode (over the moving bass busy with the motive a of the countersubject).
The hearts of the wanderers expand, and in jubilant tones sounds again the theme in the soprano (the Dux in a higher position). I leave to the imagination, once aroused, to complete the picture, and only point, besides, to the episode after the second development, in which the bass moves along somewhat painfully, and the alto sighs from weariness, while the soprano advances with merry hum.
The concluding section (entirely in the principal key) has, first of all, a complete development (bass: Dux, soprano: Comes, alto: Dux), and after a free imitation of the great episode of the middle part in the principal key, still an incomplete one (soprano: Dux, alto — after an episode of four measures — Comes). What simplicity in the disposition and development as compared with the gigantic fugue in Eb-minor!

My actual setting is:

Played on Yamaha P125 piano stage                                          Video Recording Samsung Galaxy A54.
VST: Hamburg Steinway D Pianoteq Stage 8.4.0

https://youtu.be/D70oCIbxmbk


In short this time,
You are a good  pianist and you have your own special technique, ”Carmelo technique”, and your exquisite performance is very clear - every time! Thank you Carmelo.
And,
nice to see your growing project post  Thank you!

Best wishes,

Stig

Last edited by Pianoteqenthusiast (08-01-2025 14:37)

Re: New video Bach Fugue nr 9 in E Major BWV 854 from WTC I

lovely job as usual!  looking forward to more

Re: New video Bach Fugue nr 9 in E Major BWV 854 from WTC I

carmelo.paolucci wrote:

[...] The hearts of the wanderers expand, and in jubilant tones sounds again the theme in the soprano (the Dux in a higher position). I leave to the imagination, once aroused, to complete the picture, and only point, besides, to the episode after the second development, in which the bass moves along somewhat painfully, and the alto sighs from weariness, while the soprano advances with merry hum. [...]

I see that your preface to the performance is lifted directly from Hugo Riemann' book, Analysis of JS Bach's Wholtemperirtesclavier. Available here if anyone wants to read it for themselves: https://archive.org/details/analysisofj...2/mode/2up

Riemann's colourful descriptive narrative on this particular work is full of artistic licence shall we say? I'm not sure Bach, a devout religious man would appreciate his work being described thus? It may well have tickled Victorian audiences to imagine such descriptions but not to my taste. Modern interpretations are more inclined to seek the beauty of the work's construction, it's mathematical purity and harmonic richness. When played on period instruments the work stands out as great on it own merits without titillating narrative.

Perhaps what the interpreter may be thinking whilst performing is not something we need to share. I don't think I'll look at another piece of Bach in the old familiar way I used to - LOL!

Well done on continuing your monumental (or should I say climatic?) adventure


DEZ

Re: New video Bach Fugue nr 9 in E Major BWV 854 from WTC I

Pianoteqenthusiast wrote:
carmelo.paolucci wrote:

Dear Friend,

That's the first Fugue of the year for me, the crisp air of the holidays is not forgotten, and this is one of those fugue that give you a strong boost.. Another small step this new year towards my goal of trying to record all of Bach's WTC 1 with Pianoteq.

In the fugue (a 3) one feels something of the joy of a wandering life which indeed well befits the spring-mood of the key. The energetic run of the short theme (alto), is not peaceful enjoyment, but resolution, active energy.
The semiquaver movement of the second motive continues without interruption until the close of the whole fugue, and first, as countersubject (counterpoint to the Comes), then, as filling up until the entry of the third voice (bass); with 6th measure taken as 7th. Here the sixth parallels appear to show us two wanderers arm in arm. The syncopated motive, which is here taken up by the alto part, is likewise turned to account further on, and first in the immediate continuation. This elevated mood becomes more intense still in the next episode (over the moving bass busy with the motive a of the countersubject).
The hearts of the wanderers expand, and in jubilant tones sounds again the theme in the soprano (the Dux in a higher position). I leave to the imagination, once aroused, to complete the picture, and only point, besides, to the episode after the second development, in which the bass moves along somewhat painfully, and the alto sighs from weariness, while the soprano advances with merry hum.
The concluding section (entirely in the principal key) has, first of all, a complete development (bass: Dux, soprano: Comes, alto: Dux), and after a free imitation of the great episode of the middle part in the principal key, still an incomplete one (soprano: Dux, alto — after an episode of four measures — Comes). What simplicity in the disposition and development as compared with the gigantic fugue in Eb-minor!

My actual setting is:

Played on Yamaha P125 piano stage                                          Video Recording Samsung Galaxy A54.
VST: Hamburg Steinway D Pianoteq Stage 8.4.0

https://youtu.be/D70oCIbxmbk


In short this time,
You are a good  pianist and you have your own special technique, ”Carmelo technique”, and your exquisite performance is very clear - every time! Thank you Carmelo.
And,
nice to see your growing project post  Thank you!

Best wishes,

Stig

Thank you very much, Stig, for your comment and for your precious advice... Little by little I feel that my technique and touch sensitivity is improving, returning to what it once was thanks to Bach. Studying and playing these masterpieces is a truly indispensable training for every serious pianist.
I hold on even if the climb to the summit is long.
Thanks again and Happy New Year  from Italy
Carmelo

Re: New video Bach Fugue nr 9 in E Major BWV 854 from WTC I

budo wrote:

lovely job as usual!  looking forward to more

Thank you so much for your comment and support Budo !
I'm really happy you've enjoyed my video !
By the way I wish you a Fantastic New year from Italy.
Regards
Carmelo

Re: New video Bach Fugue nr 9 in E Major BWV 854 from WTC I

DEZ wrote:
carmelo.paolucci wrote:

[...] The hearts of the wanderers expand, and in jubilant tones sounds again the theme in the soprano (the Dux in a higher position). I leave to the imagination, once aroused, to complete the picture, and only point, besides, to the episode after the second development, in which the bass moves along somewhat painfully, and the alto sighs from weariness, while the soprano advances with merry hum. [...]

I see that your preface to the performance is lifted directly from Hugo Riemann' book, Analysis of JS Bach's Wholtemperirtesclavier. Available here if anyone wants to read it for themselves: https://archive.org/details/analysisofj...2/mode/2up

Riemann's colourful descriptive narrative on this particular work is full of artistic licence shall we say? I'm not sure Bach, a devout religious man would appreciate his work being described thus? It may well have tickled Victorian audiences to imagine such descriptions but not to my taste. Modern interpretations are more inclined to seek the beauty of the work's construction, it's mathematical purity and harmonic richness. When played on period instruments the work stands out as great on it own merits without titillating narrative.

Perhaps what the interpreter may be thinking whilst performing is not something we need to share. I don't think I'll look at another piece of Bach in the old familiar way I used to - LOL!

Well done on continuing your monumental (or should I say climatic?) adventure


DEZ

Thank you very much DEZ for your comment and support.
When I study a piece I proceed in this way:
- I always read the analysis that Riemann and Marjorie Wornell Engels report.... between the two, Riemann always wins ...  Perhaps because for me this is a fun journey and I prefer a bit of romance over cold perfect statistical musical analysis of a piece ....  - As a text I use Busoni's Revision, for me the most pianistic one that gives you the best fingerings, maybe too romantic who knows ... Purists prefer the Bärenreiter or those who don't have time to waste finding the parts and fingering the cold Henkle: I like the comfort and then I play on the piano ...
- Then I listen to how these pianists approached it: Schiff, Richter, Pollini and Czech always with the score in front of me and jot down some ideas. Generally Richter wins: Schiff always has his usial manneristic way of playing that can please on some pieces, Richter the most balanced, Pollini plays everything with the same manly sound that sometimes convinces , Czech is young and has not yet finished the first book... But she definitely plays well in a way closer to baroque in my opinion.
Once I understand what and how to play I start studying it, it doesn't take me long at this stage because I already know what to do. 
Otherwise the journey is going well, it is really fun to play and study Bach. I have no great pressure, this is not my job, when I can I practice when I can no problem.

I wish you a Fantastic new Year from Italy

Carmelo

Re: New video Bach Fugue nr 9 in E Major BWV 854 from WTC I

carmelo.paolucci wrote:

Thank you very much DEZ for your comment and support.

Carmelo, your approach is admirable and the results speak for themselves - well done!

Although we don't have all the facts about musician's, their chosen temperaments and interpretation the further back in time we travel. We do know that Baroque music, like Baroque Art and Architecture was driven by the insatiable appetite of high-ranking religious men, who demanded 'The Best', better than what had gone before. These used their power and influence to denounce popular music and musicians - why? Perhaps some vain attempt to further elevate their own standing and avaricious plunder of God-given talent? Their foul greed, influenced many wealthy benefactor to also expect and demand the 'best' from his employed (slaved) musicians.

So, what do we find? Music that has been constrained to pander to one's master's taste, expectations and voracious demands. Whilst popular music of the so-called laity, the commoners was much simpler, free from encumberment and widely enjoyed; sometime sarcastic, witty, full of the kinds of imagery described by Hugo Riemann. Many 'great' composers enjoyed popular venues and music, I'm sure. Some may even have played with their masters by disguising themes in their composition - who knows? Handel certainly enjoyed playing in a pub and was a favourite - probably due to his open textures and easy to follow themes.

Anyway - that's enough of my drivel!  Keep going!!!


DEZ

Last edited by DEZ (10-01-2025 10:33)

Re: New video Bach Fugue nr 9 in E Major BWV 854 from WTC I

DEZ wrote:
carmelo.paolucci wrote:

Thank you very much DEZ for your comment and support.

Carmelo, your approach is admirable and the results speak for themselves - well done!

Although we don't have all the facts about musician's, their chosen temperaments and interpretation the further back in time we travel. We do know that Baroque music, like Baroque Art and Architecture was driven by the insatiable appetite of high-ranking religious men, who demanded 'The Best', better than what had gone before. These used their power and influence to denounce popular music and musicians - why? Perhaps some vain attempt to further elevate their own standing and avaricious plunder of God-given talent? Their foul greed, influenced many wealthy benefactor to also expect and demand the 'best' from his employed (slaved) musicians.

So, what do we find? Music that has been constrained to pander to one's master's taste, expectations and voracious demands. Whilst popular music of the so-called laity, the commoners was much simpler, free from encumberment and widely enjoyed; sometime sarcastic, witty, full of the kinds of imagery described by Hugo Riemann. Many 'great' composers enjoyed popular venues and music, I'm sure. Some may even have played with their masters by disguising themes in their composition - who knows? Handel certainly enjoyed playing in a pub and was a favourite - probably due to his open textures and easy to follow themes.

Anyway - that's enough of my drivel!  Keep going!!!


DEZ

Thank you for your comment DEZ.
I think I understand what you mean and thank you for your support in my project.
Greetings from Italy
Carmelo